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Give Paul Bertucinni a break!
Posted on 4/11/09 at 7:56 am
Posted on 4/11/09 at 7:56 am
I know people give Bertucinni hell but if you look at the situations he comes in for the law of averages say he will not be successful everytime. Hell I wish he was but like all of us he has good days and bad days. If his slider is working he's hell to hit, if not, tonight might happen. But remember we are also facing the top hitting team in the SEC. More often than not AL is going to score some runs, we just have to score 1 more than them.
If we could score some runs once in a while these middle relief pitchers wouldn't be under so much pressure. I'll continue to cheer all the middle relievers as well need them to get to Omaha.
And for all the negative people out there, try to remember once in a while these are kids playing a game. I sure don't like to lose but it's really not the end of the world, especailly in baseball.
There is always tomorrow.....
If we could score some runs once in a while these middle relief pitchers wouldn't be under so much pressure. I'll continue to cheer all the middle relievers as well need them to get to Omaha.
And for all the negative people out there, try to remember once in a while these are kids playing a game. I sure don't like to lose but it's really not the end of the world, especailly in baseball.
There is always tomorrow.....
Posted on 4/11/09 at 7:57 am to TygerNga
He sucked last night. It's nothing personal.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 7:59 am to JustSmokin
I hear you that hes a kid playing the game. But he should be a kid sitting on the bench if hes gonna bring that crap to the game. Its just a shame we don't have any middle relief in the bullpen.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 8:02 am to SM6
I can forgive getting hit. But to come in and immediatley walk 2 batters is not acceptable. And don't give me the excuse that he is cold. Ott has walked 1 batter all year.
Ranaudo busts his arse for 2 hours, and PB shits all over it in 2 minutes.
Ranaudo busts his arse for 2 hours, and PB shits all over it in 2 minutes.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 8:04 am to SM6
Bertuccini is very effective when he has his stuff. I have no problem with him being the first guy out of the pen every time. But, you can tell after the first batter he faces whether he has his stuff. I think they should have taken him out after he walked the first guy. He is hit or miss, and it seems he doesn't come back well if he screws up with the first batter.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 8:05 am to TygerNga
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And for all the negative people out there, try to remember once in a while these are kids playing a game
I agree we should not attack our athletes when they are out there giving it their all. However pointing out that our bridge relievers have not performed well is stating a fact and is acceptable. We will need Bert down the stretch. The starters and Ott have been exceptional. Our main pitching concern is how to get from starter to closer without blowing the game. Cain has looked good his last two outings, maybe he could be the one. But someone will have to stand up if we are to make a serious run.
This post was edited on 4/11/09 at 8:06 am
Posted on 4/11/09 at 8:06 am to wilfont
I'm pretty sure the fact that Mainieri makes Louis Coleman throw 837 pitches a week hurts Bertucinni's feelings a little more than what TD has to say.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 8:07 am to ProjectP2294
His fastball is a meatball, so he doesn't throw it unless he absolutely has to when he falls behind in the count. He is deadly when his breaking ball and offspeed pitches are working, but his control isn't where it needs to be.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 8:09 am to wilfont
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Ranaudo busts his arse for 2 hours, and PB shits all over it in 2 minutes
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I can assure you no one felt worse that PB last night.
Ranaudo busts his arse for 2 hours, and PB shits all over it in 2 minutes
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I can assure you no one felt worse that PB last night.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 8:12 am to TygerNga
Nothing personal against the kid, but LSU needs middle relief that is effective for mid relief. Don't care who is in there as long as its effective, and this year has been dismal.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 8:18 am to TygerNga
quote:I will, just not right now..
Give Paul Bertucinni a break
Posted on 4/11/09 at 9:34 am to SM6
So ,you bring it work every single day?Never ever have an off day?You must be in that instant gratification generation
Posted on 4/11/09 at 9:51 am to MICK MAN
whenever he comes into the game i usually expect the worst...he's effective only when his curve is working and that's pretty much his only pitch...when his curve isn't breaking much, he's as good as a batting practice pitcher...
Posted on 4/11/09 at 9:51 am to MICK MAN
People who think that players should have their Best Stuff EVERY time out have obviously NEVER played the game! They are the same people that will bitch that we fell behind last night and not be happy that we came back like CHAMPIONS do! If you have ever played the game you would give guys a break when they have an off night or two! Now I agree that Leon does strike out too much and other people should be given a shot to put the ball in play but that is based strictly on his track record thus far and if we are going by track record then Paul is the only person I would have thrown out there last night in that situation because he gives us the best shot at a ground ball! Granted his stuff was off but lets not forget we beat the gumps in their house anyway so cut Paul some effin slack because you will be the first one tugging at his jock when he comes in this evening and gets a huge doubleplay ball when we really need it!
Posted on 4/11/09 at 9:57 am to CalRipkenJr
best stuff every game?....he's only got one effective pitch, the curve, that half the time doesn't break much...means if his stuff isn't great that night, he doesn't have other pitches to lean on to get outs...he relies on one freakin pitch...how come if someone doesn't think Bertuccini is very good then they don't know about baseball?....he really isn't very good
Posted on 4/11/09 at 10:05 am to tigersnsaints
OK.. I understand that everyone doesn't bring their best stuff everygame. But, shouldn't the coach be able to see that when the pitcher is warming up in the "bull-pen". I can't believe that he had his stuff in the "bull-pen" and then lost it when he got into the game.
Or, are the Tigers in the position that they just don't have anyone else? I say BS to that.
Question: Does the Tiger pitching coach watch while our relievers are getting ready to enter the game?
Or, are the Tigers in the position that they just don't have anyone else? I say BS to that.
Question: Does the Tiger pitching coach watch while our relievers are getting ready to enter the game?
Posted on 4/11/09 at 10:08 am to ChalmationTiger
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OK.. I understand that everyone doesn't bring their best stuff everygame. But, shouldn't the coach be able to see that when the pitcher is warming up in the "bull-pen". I can't believe that he had his stuff in the "bull-pen" and then lost it when he got into the game.
I've never seen a coach decide not to put a pitcher in the game based on how they warm up. It doesn't happen.
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Or, are the Tigers in the position that they just don't have anyone else? I say BS to that.
Who would you have put in?
This post was edited on 4/11/09 at 10:08 am
Posted on 4/11/09 at 10:18 am to JustSmokin
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I've never seen a coach decide not to put a pitcher in the game based on how they warm up. It doesn't happen.
Really... That doesn't sound like an effective way to manage.
In regards to the question about who would I have used, it seems like Cain did an adequate job. Yeah, I know about hindsight. But, I still believe that how a pitcher warms-up has a direct impact on how they perform.
I believe in this team and the coaching staff. However, I believe that there is room for improvement.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 10:28 am to ChalmationTiger
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Really... That doesn't sound like an effective way to manage.
I guess it is possible that all MLB and minor league managers, college coaches, and high school coaches are wrong.
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Cain
He is like all our relievers, hit or miss. In his case, it is more miss this year. 8.18 era.
Posted on 4/11/09 at 10:48 am to tigersnsaints
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he really isn't very good
He was the best option at that point in the game and........we won the effin game!
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