re: Give credit to coach O..

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It’s more evenly distributed between top end talent & depth, which makes for a more improved team than what Les Miles left.

10lbs of fat weight the same as 10lbs of muscle. They won’t look the same.

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You're better to assess that then the people who do it for a living then?

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As I pointed out before, your opinion is just better than everyone else's, isn't it Lester? Proof be damned, what you claim is just at a different level of comprehension than everyone else.

Aw don’t become a whiny bitch all of a sudden. Leave that to earl keese.

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Nah man I'm just bowing down to the excellence that is Lester Earl's opinion. Much like the quote above, you just know more than everyone else.

It's an impressive feat. Seriously.

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It’s unscientific but I’m not even saying they do a bad job. It just doesn’t have to do with my specific points.

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Your method totally is though. You're like Bill Nye in this bitch.

The ability to measure these guys in hindsight based on their college careers rather than a high school ranking is way more accurate. Not sure what else to tell you

“ step in the right direction”

I’m not going to piss on a 10 win season as some have done here for years. 10 wins when you play in the SEC West, even the current SEC West which has dropped a tad, is a good season and should be respected as such.

I hope you’re right about a step in the right direction. To me, LSU football has plateaued at 9 to 10 wins, 5 to 6 wins in the SEC, and a struggling offense for a most years since 2012.

As for as this LSU fan is concerned, as long as we continue to fall further behind Bama and remain snake bit on O, we haven’t made any step busting through that ceiling which holds us back. I expected better than 5-3 3 yrs after a coaching. Shoot me.

I don’t think whiny means what you think it means Lonnie

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Especially since not much has changed.

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Makes you wonder how great Miles is as a coach if the worst coach in Ole Miss history is performing the same as Miles

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Because if you wanted the coach fired, whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there is a transition period there for a new coach.

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Then why on Earth were we trying to fire Miles in 15 when the great 14 recruiting class was set up to challenge for the West in 16???

We were a top 5 team going into that season and Miles was fired in September because he was seen as holding a championship caliber team and program back, not because the program needed to be built back up.

Alleva presented a new leader as the solution, both when he introduced O as interim, and when he hired him full time.


It wasn’t until the disastrous September in 17 that we started hearing about all of the deficiencies that needed fixing.

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Why?? Start going over the check list on the reasons he should have been fired.

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For years all we heard was that Miles needed to simply stay out of the offense. That was it.

I also thought there comes a time when a change of scenery can benefit all parties. Miles had a good run, but after three years of less than 10-2 records, which is the bar for a good season, it was time to win the West or say our goodbyes and give someone else a chance to see what a new direction would do.

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You realize how many programs have crashed after a coach is fired? shite, there are programs that can’t rebound when a coach retires on good terms.

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Do you realize how many coaches lead programs to championships in Year 2 after replacing fired head coaches??

In fact, no coach this century has won the SEC without at least winning their division by Year 2.

Smart 17 SEC Champ year 2
Malzahn 13 SEC Champ NCG year 1
Chizik 10 SEC and NC year 2
Saban 08 West Champ year 2
Meyer 06 SEC NC year 2
Miles 05 West Champ year 1
Richt 02 SEC Champ year 2
Saban 01 SEC Champ year 2
Tubs 00 West Champ year 2


This idea that there is some “transition period” is complete nonsense.

The opposite is actually true. If you don’t win big fast, history shows you don’t win big at all.

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And you have slap dicks like the guy I responded to saying this season wasn’t up to par. Year 1 had a few warts like a lot of 1st year coaches will have. Year 2 showed clear improvement across the board. Year 3 is primed to be huge.

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I won’t even bother to disagree here.

So we can agree that 2019 better be “huge” right?

As in 11-1 top 5ish before bowl selection right?

That would be “huge”. Finally getting to 10-2, when we already should have gotten there in 17 and 18 isn’t “huge”.


Because be honest, Earl, if we don’t get to that level in 2019 do you truly think we’ll be poised to get there in 2020 when we lose our QB, Delpit, multiple DL and OL and travel to Auburn Florida and AM in Year 3 under Mullen and Jimbo??

No, it will just be more excuses and Next Year U really will roll on.


I’m not even trying to win a point or fricking with you here. I’m being completely sincere when I say O actually has us in a damn good position for next year. I’m truly excited about it. He finally brought in the big RB to go with a Meyer trained QB. The offense finally has everything it needs if the coaching is there. It’s on dude, or at least it should be.

If we can’t expect the “huge” jump now, I just truly don’t think it will ever happen.

O has been on campus for FOUR years right now. He’s been completely in charge for 28 months. Over 30 games.

He is what he is and the program is what it is.

It’s on the cusp, just like it had been for Miles.

Should we be expected to beat Alabama? Hell no. Could we? Sure, but they are too good to say it should be expected.

But we should definitely be able to clearly say we are the next in line and nipping at their heels.


If O can’t do that this year, then the program will once again be in a reset mode, and once again it’s time to see what a new vision and direction can do, just like it was with Miles.


ETA: Just so you don’t think I’m blowing smoke, I admit I don’t think he’ll get it done.

I thought we should be 10-2 this year but said I thought we’d lose a game we shouldn’t.

I still feel that way, but admit that he has us in a better position than I thought he would going into year 3 when he was hired.

Hopefully he proves me and a lot of others wrong because we should all agree it’s been far too long since we were in the top 10 when bowls were being picked.

STFU with your hate for O...........

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2013 Miles takes a 5th ranked team to Ole Miss with tons of starters missing on defense and lost to A terrible Ole Mis team........

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They were a 10-3 top 10 team, who beat Alabama at Alabama.