re: Give credit to coach O..

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The dunces won't admit that the program.is headed in the right direction until we beat Bama. Then, they will simply change the metric

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They will always move the goalposts or attempt to shift the narrative. Anything to avoid conceding a point.

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Most are just ecstatic about LSU being competitive for the first time in a while.

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Most are actually just unconvinced because as has been pointed out, we had 1 conference win over a team with less than 5 losses.

In 2017 we had 1 SEC win over a team with less than SIX losses.


Aside from being 0-3 against Saban, O is also 0-3 against Mullen and Jimbo. If LSU is going to actually be “competitive”, that has to change THIS YEAR because those are the games that ultimately decide how the season goes.

Both games are at home, and he still has enough of a head start to finally get a win over those two before they are back on the road in Year 3 when we lose Burrow and a ton from the OL and defense (don’t even want to think about possibly losing Aranda).


To his credit, he is 2-0 against Auburn, and of course had the big win over Smart and UGA this year as well.

Both of the losses were close though, so that is an improvement over what we saw in 17. But the loss to Alabama was the worst in 16 years and the gap just continues to widen.


So yes there is some reason for optimism, but anyone who is “ecstatic” about what we’ve seen on the field so far just isn’t being objective.

Now this recruiting class is certainly something to be very excited about, but the staff is going to have to get them ready to contribute right away if 2019 is going to be as good as it can be and needs to be.

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With respect to our loss to Florida. It was our defense that let us down in the 4th quarter or that game is won... again at TAM our defense allows a 60 yard touchdown drive with only 39 seconds left in the game. Or we are 11 and 1

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What is Orgeron’s specialty again? Does he hold any responsibility for the defense in your opinion costing us two games?

And this whole we were so close to 11-1 bit is funny. We’re a second away from a loss to Auburn and if the defense doesn’t bail us out we lose to MSU and a dreadful Arkansas team.

That can go both ways so let’s not bother playing the what if game.

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We have not had an all SEC defensive lineman in 5 to 7 years

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Again, what is Orgeron’s specialty again?

Four years on campus you’d think that wouldn’t still be an issue

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The dunces won't admit that the program.is headed in the right direction until we beat Bama.

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Absolutely false.

I have said repeatedly since he was hired O isn’t held to beating Alabama as the standard.


It was the dunces that held Miles to that standard, no matter how much they’ve tried to lower that bar since they got their wish.


11-1 would be an absolutely fantastic season and no one would disagree with that.

Hell, we haven’t even gone 10-2 yet so you can give the hand wringing over Alabama a rest.

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What is Orgeron’s specialty again? Does he hold any responsibility for the defense in your opinion costing us two games

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The Florida loss was just like any loss. It was on the team.

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Four years on campus you’d think that wouldn’t still be an issue

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Please stop trying to make O responsible for things that occurred or situations on the team from before he took over as head coach.

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The Florida loss was just like any loss. It was on the team.

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Tell that to the guy I was responding to

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Please stop trying to make O responsible for things that occurred or situations on the team from before he took over as head coach.

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He was the defensive line coach. He is absolutely responsible for the lack of All SEC DL that guy was talking about.

FOUR YEARS and the DL is still seen as underachieving.

Sorry, but that is 100% on O.

“FOUR YEARS”

It’s amazing to me how some want to put out the narrative that Coach O arrived in Baton Rouge in 2017.

It’s OK to pat him on the back for any good things LSU football did in the 2016 season, but not for any of the negative things that went on with LSU football during that same season.

Go figure

It’s a waste of time trying to get those clowns to be optimistic. When people would rather find negatives than positives they are a lost cause. Their agenda is to discount everything because O is the HC.

Last year they were all saying we will be lucky to win 1-2 sec games after the Troy & MSU losses...O turned it around and instead of giving him credit they began with the sec was weak.

This year they we go 10-3 with one of the toughest schedules in the country and they shite on it by saying we only beat one non p5 team in the country with less than 5 losses...just looking for ways to discredit our first top10 season in 6 years.

The UF and A&M losses sucked and we could’ve won both but one will finish higher than us and the other in the top 15 and they claim we are vastly superior to those teams and it’s inexcusable to lose to them even though they were on the road. Road games in the SEC are never guaranteed and people who know football realize that. Ricky sits in his moms basement finding the most obscure ways to shite on anything this team has done and the other dumbasses pick up on it and run with it...the new rally cry for them is only one p5 win vs team with less than 5 losses. I guess beating a team with a 25 game win streak is crap now.

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The A&M game was a complete shitshow due to the refs

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I’m sorry but that is just pathetic.

There were ample opportunities to win that game throughout regulation and in multiple OTs despite the refs. We didn’t. Plain and simple.

Was it some disastrous embarrassing loss? No. But it also is a bad sign of things to come that in year 1 Jimbo already them even in position to give the refs a chance to decide the game.

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The shutout loss to Bama looked terrible, but we were outmatched regardless of how you look at it.

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Well that is just demonstrably false.

This board was brimming with optimism after even a marginal offensive showing against them in 2017.

That gave us “We comin!” Remember??


As for being “outmatched” hasn’t that been the story since 2014? Didn’t excuse the previous coach and shouldn’t excuse this one either.

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You can bitch and moan all you want, but the season was a improvement over the last, and next season has a lot of promise.

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I 100% agree.

And I’m not bitching.

I don’t start threads or posts but when I see comments like yours and Ben’s making stupid assertions, I do decide to correct them from time to time

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Most are actually just unconvinced because as has been pointed out, we had 1 conference win over a team with less than 5 losses.

In 2017 we had 1 SEC win over a team with less than SIX losses.


Aside from being 0-3 against Saban, O is also 0-3 against Mullen and Jimbo. If LSU is going to actually be “competitive”, that has to change THIS YEAR because those are the games that ultimately decide how the season goes.

Both games are at home, and he still has enough of a head start to finally get a win over those two before they are back on the road in Year 3 when we lose Burrow and a ton from the OL and defense (don’t even want to think about possibly losing Aranda).


To his credit, he is 2-0 against Auburn, and of course had the big win over Smart and UGA this year as well.

Both of the losses were close though, so that is an improvement over what we saw in 17. But the loss to Alabama was the worst in 16 years and the gap just continues to widen.


So yes there is some reason for optimism, but anyone who is “ecstatic” about what we’ve seen on the field so far just isn’t being objective.

Now this recruiting class is certainly something to be very excited about, but the staff is going to have to get them ready to contribute right away if 2019 is going to be as good as it can be and needs to be.

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All of this, and...

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So yes there is some reason for optimism, but anyone who is “ecstatic” about what we’ve seen on the field so far just isn’t being objective.

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Can't be repeated enough.