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re: Garrett Nussmeier just moved into 3rd place for single season passing yards.

Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:41 am to
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:41 am to
No one thinks he is bad.
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You and the up voters been under a rock? He was treated pretty bad on here for several weeks.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13953 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:46 am to
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I do not get how people don't understand


Burrow was throwing to Moss, Jefferson, Marshall, and Chase, and handing the ball to Clyde Edwards-Helaire.

Daniels was throwing to Nabers and Thomas.


Nuss is throwing to ????

Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287652 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:46 am to
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We have posts on here that literally say "Nuss is so bad"


He's not bad, but there were posters a month ago who thought he was the best QB in the SEC and a potential Heisman finalist.

His counting stats are great because of the volume of pass plays, but his percentage stats leave a lot to be desired

quote:

In the SEC:

QB Rating: 10th

YPA: 10th

Comp%: 8th

Adj Comp%:11th

INT: 2nd

Turnover worthy plays: 3rd




His drops with Lacy have obviously been an issue, but people over-inflate the drop issues. There are 6 more QBs in the SEC that have higher drop %'s. Nussmeier is much closer to the median than he is being a huge drop outlier.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 7:49 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55339 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:48 am to
Three weeks ago I was on the "If Nuss had a good OC, he would be in the Heisman talk".

After his horrid decision making in the past three games, I let off of that. After last night, I have to roll back to it.

With a decent OC, he would be solid. But, our OC is garbage, so...
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16336 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:48 am to
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Lacy's rank among SEC WR's:

Receptions: 4th
reYds: 4th
TD's: t1st
1st downs: 2nd

Nuss is 2nd in yards and TDs in the SEC. Context counts right?

Nuss has made bad throws and decisions and Lacy loses focus and struggles to haul in contested balls.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
2928 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:48 am to
I think Lacy is serviceable but he doesn’t have that ‘wow’ or ‘it’
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Don't see Lacy this way. Lacy has a few wow moments, but lacks consistency. Too many drops. Doesn't have a good football IQ. He will run a 3 yard route on 3rd and 5. He goes out of bounds when we need the clock to keep running. Lacy has good skills, but is not a WR1.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287652 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:50 am to
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uss is 2nd in yards and TDs in the SEC. Context counts right?

Nuss has made bad throws and decisions and Lacy loses focus and struggles to haul in contested balls.


Lacy has obviously had issues with drops, but he is also always wide the frick open lol. Nuss has missed him open deep on a bunch of occasions. So there is that, too. All this could look a lot better.
Posted by Tzanghi
Member since Nov 2020
1230 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:55 am to
I’m still on the Nussbus a lot more than others here. But this stat is fairly misleading because of the number of attempts. Nuss is not in the top 100 in yards per attempt. LINK

Edit: CFB nerds reporting him as 70th in the country in yards per attempt LINK
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 7:58 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71838 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 7:56 am to
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No one thinks he is bad.


Lol
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86183 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:02 am to
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No one thinks he is bad
Well, this is false.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16336 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:06 am to
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Lacy has obviously had issues with drops, but he is also always wide the frick open lol.

Now that's hyperbole.

Lacy had a TD drop vs USC, at least another this season (I can't recall which game) and one last night. I get on some plays the DB gets a hand on his arm, but good WRs hold on to the ball. He's also notorious for dropping easy passes as well. Did it when JD was here too. Lacy doesn't have breakaway speed, hasn't shown great YAC (although I will say he hasn't had enough opportunities) and doesn't show the ability to make contested catches. He's been a good route runner, which is probably his best attribute.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55339 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:13 am to
Dropped an easy one Vs Bama (TD first drive)
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287652 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:13 am to
We’ve already established weeks ago Tigerdroppings does not know:

-what a drop is vs a PBU.

-And what constitutes a WR as being “open”.


Of course there is some hyperbole there saying he is always wide open. He’s not on every single snap. There’s a reason he has 25 more targets than the next closer guy, though.
Posted by Kaldur
Member since Aug 2015
97 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:23 am to
Jayden had to play perfect every possession because he had to play against LSU’s defense and the opponents every week. LSU defense was non existent. LSU won multiple games this year despite Nuss’s below average performances.
This post was edited on 11/24/24 at 8:33 am
Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2885 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Saunson69
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I do not get how people don't understand the concept of Yards per Attempt being the most important metric any QB could have


This is also the first season Nuss has been the starter, Jayden had 4 starting seasons prior to 2023 Heisman season. Do not get how people don't understand the concept of starting experience
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
2876 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:36 am to
Two 1st round receivers helps that stat alot.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13953 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:51 am to
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Nuss passer rating is 136.3 before tonight. Jayden ended the year at a 208.0 rating. That trails Jayden by over 70 points.


What a ignorant response.
Daniels was a 5th year starter with two WR's, first round draft choices, now starters/stars of their NFL teams .
Posted by Cleary Rebels
Member since Oct 2024
2899 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:00 am to
Why’s he throwing so many passes? LOL
Posted by BayouBaw84
Member since Oct 2016
3202 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:11 am to
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Nuss passer rating is 136.3 before tonight. Jayden ended the year at a 208.0 rating. That trails Jayden by over 70 points.
JDs first year passer rating was 144 which was actually his fourth year as a starter. This is Nuss first year.

JD - 4th year starter first at LSU
Passing - 2913 17 TDs
Completion % - 68.6
Rating - 144

Nuss - 1st year starter
Passing - 3458 23 TDs
Completion % - 63.2
Rating - 137

Nuss has minimum 2 games left and he is way ahead of JD in terms of QB development.



Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287652 posts
Posted on 11/24/24 at 9:27 am to
6 weeks ago today you were calling him the best QB in the SEC & a Heisman finalist

Now his barometer is Jayden Daniels 1st year lmao
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