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re: Fulton halfway through a two-year suspension
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:33 pm to Captain Crown
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:33 pm to Captain Crown
Still don't know how Bama gets around it
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:35 pm to sicboy
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I guess a better way of saying that would be a 2 year suspension for a tampered test
That's true. By definition it's automatically a 2 year suspension. It's almost like the NCAA is being cute with their terminology to not make the punishment seem too punitive.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:35 pm to CP3forMVP
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That's quite the story. If Fulton did indeed tamper with the test, that's an incredibly dumb thing to do on his part.
FYI, its very common. They sell clean pee and artificial pee on the internet and in head shops.
I know several people who have used it successfully when they got job offers when they weren't expecting them and had to take a test.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:35 pm to BayouCowboy
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Since when is a failed test a 1 year suspension?
That's only the NCAA's policy. They go to every college once a yr and randomly select a certain number of athletes to drug test. They don't test every player on the team each yr
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:36 pm to sicboy
We need to adopt Alabama's drug compliance program.
They never have a violation.
They never have a violation.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:36 pm to BayouCowboy
I think its pretty mind blowing the NCAA even tests for marijuana tbh.
Its going to be legal soon, its definitely not a performance enhancer, and they could re-focus that energy on actual NCAA violations in recruiting.
ETA:
NVm, they don't. Why did he tamper? Was he taking roids?
Its going to be legal soon, its definitely not a performance enhancer, and they could re-focus that energy on actual NCAA violations in recruiting.
ETA:
NVm, they don't. Why did he tamper? Was he taking roids?
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The NCAA randomly tests athletes at its member schools for performance-enhancing drugs — not recreational drugs.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:38 pm to MLCLyons
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How the frick is this in any way O's fault?
He should have seen the future and abandoned the recruitment of Surtain, then forced Fulton not to fail and tamper with a drug test
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:38 pm to 1999
Yep. You know damn well that the suspension was known about.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:39 pm to TrueTiger
The failure to SIGN a couple of CBs in the last class is a stunning failure by the program in light of this information.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:39 pm to The Pirate King
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He should have seen the future and abandoned the recruitment of Surtain, then forced Fulton not to fail and tamper with a drug test
Or just offer Goodrich because we had the spots open and weren't getting Foster.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:41 pm to 1999
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Mind boggling this wasn’t addressed in recruitIng or hitting the jucos.
If you actually listened to O’s press conference yesterday, they are getting at least one.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:42 pm to The Pirate King
We’ll see.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:42 pm to Wrinkles
I keep seeing people saying he tampered with one and failed one. That's simply not the case. THE TAMPERED ONE IS AUTOMATICALLY CONSIDERED FAILED. So what he is facing is basically double jeopardy for one test. Now, I'm not saying what the punishment should be but we are talking college kids.
I think an appeal based on the 'I was a dumb kid and freaked out and did something stupid' should go a long ways to reversing the 2nd year. To treat one test as 2 separate incidents really should be addressed.
I won't even touch the whole recruiting fiasco this year.
I think an appeal based on the 'I was a dumb kid and freaked out and did something stupid' should go a long ways to reversing the 2nd year. To treat one test as 2 separate incidents really should be addressed.
I won't even touch the whole recruiting fiasco this year.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:43 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Or just offer Goodrich because we had the spots open and weren't getting Foster.
You guys still holding onto the “didn’t have a committable offer” nonsense?
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:44 pm to drdoct
The NCAA is such a joke can't even imagine them putting Alabama thru this
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:45 pm to The Pirate King
then he couldn’t close a position of extreme need. I would rather him tell Goodrich to take a hike over that scenario.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:45 pm to Wrinkles
Good thing we signed Surtain! YAW YAW YAW
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:46 pm to nitwit
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The failure to SIGN a couple of CBs in the last class is a stunning failure by the program in light of this information.
We should have signed the best CB who was ready to sign in December.
After that it was Russian roulette, but we had to take one early.
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:46 pm to The Pirate King
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You guys still holding onto the “didn’t have a committable offer” nonsense?
Pretty sure Orgeron said that himself.
They were told the night before signing day from Surtain that he was going to Bama and then they had to go back to Goodrich and re-offer and push for a signature, but it was too late.
This sure sounds like they didn't prioritize Goodrich because they thought they didn't need him:
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"All indications were the whole time he was coming. Got a call last night that he wasn't," Orgeron said, revealing he found out Tuesday at 11 p.m. that Surtain Jr. wasn't picking LSU.
After finding out Surtain Jr. wasn't coming to LSU, Orgeron said the team turned its attention back to Goodrich.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:47 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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He tampered
allegedly
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and failed a drug test
Not necessarily. I don't think it was a throw away line where Dellenger mentioned missing a test is considered a fail in the NCAA's eyes. I'm guessing part Fulton's defense will hinge on this.
Regardless, killing 50% of a kid's eligibility over this shite is unethical. Of all the shite that goes on in college athletics and this is what they destroy kids over?
One year for the entire fiasco would have been more than enough.
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Still don't know how Bama gets around it
If it's the same process Saban had at LSU, it's structured like this:
- drug testing is handled by the football program. Not the AD. That's why you see so many Bama players get popped at the combine or admit to many failed tests in college.
- there is no formal discipline. Saban uses it as leverage over kids to get the most out of them or process them.
- kids who fail tests are put in a "treatment program".
- those players in the "treatment program" are asked not to be included in NCAA tests because the school has already identified their issue and are working towards correcting it.
How he ensures NCAA compliance with this, I don't know.
This post was edited on 3/12/18 at 12:58 pm
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