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re: Fournette says the players took the Miles matter personal.

Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:34 am to
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Prolonged coaching searches never end well


I know, right? Just look at the mess Alabama wound up with after they fired Shula, then got turned down by their first choice (Rodriguez) and their coaching search dragged on forever.

And Ole Miss with that silly committee they put together to do a national search that took months? All they got was a guy who has lifted their program to probably 2nd strongest overall in the West, given them almost 20% of their all-time wins over Alabama and put them in the Sugar Bowl for the first time in over 40 years, after a New Years Six bowl last year. What the hell were they thinking?

Arkansas took a fricking YEAR to find a coach to replace Petrino and even they got someone better than Les Miles. And they're fricking ARKANSAS!
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:35 am to
What's sad is that you aren't smart enough to figure out what you are doing is not only innacurate but also is detrimental to LSU.

On top of that all I hear is the trend...the trend is up from last year...and the outlook for next year is continued positive. So not only do you sound stupid but you are also lying...either that or your blind hatred for miles won't even allow you to see the improvement.
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1416 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:38 am to
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But the ones who are not students who have to pay for tickets that they cannot even sell if unable to attend the games, I bet that demographic would show an entirely different trend.


If this is your only motivation, just stop buying tickets in the first place.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5436 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:38 am to
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don't believe their opinion is some sinister ploy to dismantle LSU. I believe they truly think Miles is a great coach. It's not a far fetched opinion that requires some ulterior motive


I agree but it doesn't mean they are right or because their opinion is less influenced by emotion it makes it any more credible. I think the majority polled know little about the program and based their opinion on espn's verbal diarrhea.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 9:49 am
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63390 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:39 am to
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Vegas is about money; get a bunch of people to believe the hype, they put down money. When the championship doesn't happy, Vegas walks away fat and happy.


oh is that the plan? Does Vegas have a hype arm that they use to sway betting trends? Seems like it would be easier to base odds on some combination of the likelihood of achieving an outcome and the perception already in place.

If the general consensus is that LSU is a sinking ship, those odds aren't going to get a lot of action.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:42 am to
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I know, right? Just look at the mess Alabama wound up with after they fired Shula, then got turned down by their first choice (Rodriguez) and their coaching search dragged on forever.


ummm....Saban was hired about a month after they fired Shula. immediately after the season was over.

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And Ole Miss with that silly committee they put together to do a national search that took months?


are you just making shite up? Nutt was fired around the beginning of November....Freeze was hired about a month later. and i'm pretty sure they're being investigated by the NCAA.

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Arkansas took a fricking YEAR to find a coach to replace Petrino and even they got someone better than Les Miles. And they're fricking ARKANSAS!


completely different situation.


try again
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 9:45 am
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:42 am to
This post right here says more about the ignorance of some of you than anything else.

Ole miss has lost 7 games the last 2 years including 3 this year...so far...they were projected to have a good shot at the west this year. They finished second in the west for the fist time in over 10 years....and did I mention 3 losses? The bowl games are a joke now if you aren't top 4...nothing like the prestige of the old day bowls. What's more ole miss will lose all that bought class after this year...and are headed back down while LSU is up. This post of yours defines the ignorance of posters like you.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:42 am to
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I believe they truly think Miles is a great coach. It's not a far fetched opinion that requires some ulterior motive.


I have no problem with people who say this. I think he is to an extent myself. He has his strengths and weaknesses.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5436 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:45 am to
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What's sad is that you aren't smart enough to figure out what you are doing is not only innacurate but also is detrimental to LSU.


How? Players read and make decisions about what this board writes? Ok.

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On top of that all I hear is the trend...the trend is up from last year...and the outlook for next year is continued positive


From what you hear? How about was you see and the actual stats?

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either that or your blind hatred for miles won't even allow you to see the improvement.


Already said many times I don't hate miles and you look like a fool to continue to confuse criticism with hate.

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63390 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:45 am to
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I agree but it doesn't mean they are right or because their opinion is less influenced by emotion it makes it any more credible.


NO.shite.

The argument that "Fournette is just emotional. If he took emotions out of it, he'd see it differently" was incorrect. I proved that people who have no emotions vested do not see it differently than Fournette.

Nobody's opinion of the future can ever be considered or proven right at a specific point in time. Because, you know, it hasn't happened yet. That's not what I am doing here. If it's what you are doing, you should stop.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
5655 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:52 am to
The trend...you guys say spiraling downward.

2014- 8-5
2015- 8-3 *
2016- projected very highly/top class coming in.


* touchdown favorite to finish 9-3 with cancelled game preventing 10 win season.
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:55 am to
I've been saying this for weeks. They don't understand trends or will tell you we go 6-6 next year.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11144 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 9:57 am to
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I've been saying this for weeks. They don't understand trends or will tell you we go 6-6 next year.



No, most on here are just ignorant fricks who constantly look for something to bitch about.
Posted by pt448
LA
Member since Nov 2013
502 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:00 am to
That sums it up very accurately.
Posted by tigerintexas777
the lake
Member since Sep 2013
1312 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:01 am to
I like fournette as much as the next LSU fan, guy is a beast, but he'll be gone after next year and we will still be stuck with Miles and mediocrity... I take it personal too, specially when LSU gets an arse whoopin
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:10 am to
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ummm....Saban was hired about a month after they fired Shula. immediately after the season was over.



Saban wasn't hired until after the first of the year. After Rich Rod turned them down.

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are you just making shite up?


No, but you apparently are.

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Nutt was fired around the beginning of November....Freeze was hired about a month later. and i'm pretty sure they're being investigated by the NCAA.



The NCAA bullshite is an example of your grasping at straws.

Edit: It was about a month, which by coaching search standards is a fairly long time, and a hell of a far cry from your insistence on "hav[ing] someone lined up and read to go":

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only if we have someone lined up and ready to go. Prolonged coaching searches never end well and i'd rather keep Miles if it came to that.


Regarding Arkansas,

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completely different situation.


It was a prolonged coaching search. You said those never end well. You were wrong.

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try again


No, that's only if at first you don't succeed. You are full of shite, grasping at straws, and resorting to cutesy shite to cover your own bullshite.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 10:31 am
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:19 am to
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Ole miss has lost 7 games the last 2 years including 3 this year.


Which is less than LSU has lost in the same time frame.

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they were projected to have a good shot at the west this year.


Why? Because they have a good coach who has lifted their program to that point. And they were a freakish 25-yard backward lateral away from winning the damned thing.

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They finished second in the west for the fist time in over 10 years.


Yes, a testament to the job Freeze has done after taking over the shitshow they had in 2011.

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and did I mention 3 losses?


Yes. The same number as LSU this year and less than LSU last year. And did I mention that Miles averages about 3 losses per year over 11 years, despite taking over a program that was already poised to be a national contender before he even arrived?

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The bowl games are a joke now if you aren't top 4..


So, then Miles being a TD favorite to go 9-3 is a joke now? Which is it? You point out a shitty bowl win we HOPE to get as evidence of Miles' greatness, but discount a Sugar Bowl appearance by Freeze?

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What's more ole miss will lose all that bought class after this year...


Maybe so.

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and are headed back down


Maybe they'll go downhill like LSU did after we lost a bunch of juniors, maybe they won't. We'll see.

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LSU is up


On what planet is this the case?

The obvious fact is that, four years ago, Ole Miss was a complete dumpster fire, fired Houston Nutt, and hired Hugh Freeze. Meanwhile, at the same time, LSU was playing a national championship game and was the projected preseason #1 going into 2012. Since then, Ole Miss has arguably outperformed LSU despite those ridiculously different starting points. To say Ole Miss' coaching search went badly while simultaneously claiming Les Miles is performing well is completely insane, but...

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Tigerinthehollow



not surprising.

This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 10:22 am
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10348 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:20 am to
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what planet does one live on where one dimensional power run games attempt 35 passes in one game and 51 in the other?

Do some of you actually watch the games?


Tell me why we attempted so many passes!
Posted by BGSB
Opelousas
Member since Jan 2010
2257 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:23 am to
More importantly, he implied that he would stay for his senior season. "I have TWO more years to play, and be with you guys"
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 10:33 am to
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FYI....they're not going to take your advice in a poll.


No shite, dumbass. That's why it's so incredibly ridiculous that you cite fricking POLL opinions in support of Miles, especially when the poll respondents were probably self-selected.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 10:36 am
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