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Forde: Coach O and Joe Alleva's seats are already warming up
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:49 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:49 am
If Riley can’t turn it around in Big Ten play, he and the guy who hired him will both be under fire.
The same dynamic is in the early stages of development at LSU, where the infinitely questionable Ed Orgeron hire looks worse and athletic director Joe Alleva will feel the heat if there are many more Saturdays like this last one.
The Tigers were pummeled 37-7 by Mississippi State, the worst loss LSU has ever had to the Bulldogs. This was a more-of-the-same loss, with LSU every bit as unproductive offensively as it had been in the latter stages of the Les Miles Era. What was supposed to be a more creative and explosive offense produced 137 yards passing and 270 yards total, with just one play from scrimmage going for longer than 19 yards.
There also was a continuation of undisciplined play from LSU: Nine penalties for 112 yards, raising the Tigers’ total to 30 flags for an SEC-high 272 yards in three games.
Amid that carnage, a couple things to keep in mind: Mississippi State might be really good, and we’re only three games into Orgeron’s full-time tenure. But you won’t find anyone who believes LSU has inferior talent to the Bulldogs, and you won’t find many outside the LSU bubble who believed Louisiana native Orgeron was more than a comfort hire.
Alleva’s last high-profile comfort hire, of former Dale Brown player and assistant Johnny Jones to head the basketball program, was an unequivocal bust. Football fans will be much less patient with squandering talent than their basketball brethren.
With four SEC road games remaining, there is no comfort at LSU right now.
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The same dynamic is in the early stages of development at LSU, where the infinitely questionable Ed Orgeron hire looks worse and athletic director Joe Alleva will feel the heat if there are many more Saturdays like this last one.
The Tigers were pummeled 37-7 by Mississippi State, the worst loss LSU has ever had to the Bulldogs. This was a more-of-the-same loss, with LSU every bit as unproductive offensively as it had been in the latter stages of the Les Miles Era. What was supposed to be a more creative and explosive offense produced 137 yards passing and 270 yards total, with just one play from scrimmage going for longer than 19 yards.
There also was a continuation of undisciplined play from LSU: Nine penalties for 112 yards, raising the Tigers’ total to 30 flags for an SEC-high 272 yards in three games.
Amid that carnage, a couple things to keep in mind: Mississippi State might be really good, and we’re only three games into Orgeron’s full-time tenure. But you won’t find anyone who believes LSU has inferior talent to the Bulldogs, and you won’t find many outside the LSU bubble who believed Louisiana native Orgeron was more than a comfort hire.
Alleva’s last high-profile comfort hire, of former Dale Brown player and assistant Johnny Jones to head the basketball program, was an unequivocal bust. Football fans will be much less patient with squandering talent than their basketball brethren.
With four SEC road games remaining, there is no comfort at LSU right now.
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:50 am to toosleaux
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Coach O and Joe Alleva's seats are already warming up
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:50 am to toosleaux
The admins are anchoring threads like crazy
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:51 am to toosleaux
I think he'd have to go like 4-8 to really have a chance at being fired this year
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:52 am to toosleaux
Seriously, what was in that binder?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:52 am to toosleaux
Good-they need to feel some pressure
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:53 am to toosleaux
I seriously hope he knows something.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:54 am to jdeval1
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I think he'd have to go like 4-8 to really have a chance at being fired this year
I don't know if we should be cheering for the team to win or lose. I'm starting to suspect that too much damage is already done and we are in for a long, painful down period regardless.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:55 am to jdeval1
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I think he'd have to go like 4-8 to really have a chance at being fired this year
If they play the remainder of the SEC schedule like they did against Miss State, the won't win any SEC games.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:56 am to c on z
he doesn't, we're not swallowing 2 massive buyouts in 2 years. Especially with a president like F King.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:57 am to tom
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I don't know if we should be cheering for the team to win or lose.
I'm not saying I'm cheering for the team to lose. I want them to win.
Let's just say that IF they did continue to lose, and that led to O and Alleva getting canned, I'm not going to lose my shite over it.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:57 am to BilJ
how long is his contract 3 years?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:59 am to toosleaux
A comfort hire means a lazy hire.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:00 am to lshuge
5
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:00 am to lshuge
5 years with a $12 million buyout this season
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:03 am to toosleaux
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There also was a continuation of undisciplined play
Continuity
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:07 am to toosleaux
Get Alleva out and send the Cajun man packing with him. Bad AD and even worse football coach
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:10 am to toosleaux
It's not O's fault Les Miles left the cupboard dry. When you get beat in the trenches like that on both sides of the ball, that's a recruiting issue caused by the previous head coach.
Meanwhile, this was O's first lost, and you retards on the rant want to put him on the hot seat. Was perfection also a requirement for other LSU coaches, because then I want to know why Miles wasn't fired after it became apparent he didn't and still doesn't know how to manage a clock.
Meanwhile, this was O's first lost, and you retards on the rant want to put him on the hot seat. Was perfection also a requirement for other LSU coaches, because then I want to know why Miles wasn't fired after it became apparent he didn't and still doesn't know how to manage a clock.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:14 am to Elleshoe
Hmm. I think I would actually rate Alleva worse, considering how we got played by Miles with Arkansas, then fake fired him with a reversal during A&M, hired Johnny Jones who was predictably dreadful, then replaced Les Miles with Ed Orgeron (5-19 SEC win percentage) and gave him a 12 M buyout when he had 0 other HC opportunities in P5.
Know who else was 5-19 when hired? Gene Chizik
Know who else was 5-19 when hired? Gene Chizik
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:16 am to toosleaux
I'm just ready for the Prince to come back and replace tBOB
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