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re: For those of you who think we "know" what Harris is
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:20 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:20 am to ShortyRob
no doubt you have a point...........
I feel without a question of a doubt BH in a different offense with good not even great coaches and a better scheme would be a totally different player. Maybe not a great player but wayyyyy better than what we are getting here. I blame him for some of it because he is responsible for bone headed plays like the INT at the end of the game.
ultimately the coaches are responsible for player development, and putting these kids in a position to succeed. It starts up top that's why there needs to be a change, then maybe we could see what we actually have as far as a quarterback goes, but until then we will never know
I feel without a question of a doubt BH in a different offense with good not even great coaches and a better scheme would be a totally different player. Maybe not a great player but wayyyyy better than what we are getting here. I blame him for some of it because he is responsible for bone headed plays like the INT at the end of the game.
ultimately the coaches are responsible for player development, and putting these kids in a position to succeed. It starts up top that's why there needs to be a change, then maybe we could see what we actually have as far as a quarterback goes, but until then we will never know
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:24 am to UpToPar
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There isn't a QB on our roster that can run this scheme. There might only be one or two in the country that can. This scheme asks far too much out of a college QB.
Fixing it is explained the second half of my post.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:26 am to ScoopAndScore
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Based on the results on the field, JL and JJ were both very serviceable SEC QBs. B Harris has not bee
Jordan Jefferson as a junior QB
7 TD passes, 10 INT 56.5% , 5.3 yards per attempt
Jefferson as a senior in 10 games
6 TD 2 INT, threw it an average of 10 times a game....thats a VERY small number
Jarrett Lee as a junior
2 TD 1 INT
Lee as a senior
14 TD 3 INT, 62.0% (was benched for Jefferson)
Brandon Harris could actually eclipse those numbers from Jefferson & Lee's junior seasons.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 11:28 am
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:27 am to FATBOY TIGER
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Blame is placed on both. Time to cut your losses and make a change.
Fine, but it surely isn't equal blame. Which is easier - adjusting your scheme to fit the talents of the individuals you have or forcing players to adapt to a static scheme?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:31 am to ScoopAndScore
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For those of you who think we "know" what Harris is
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5 straight
I'm not sure what you're definition of bust is. I would not call JL or JJ a bust. Harris and Jennings appear to be busts based on their recruiting profiles.
You really must've blanked during the JJ/JL years.
Jarrett Lee was basically the turning point where Miles wouldn't even think of passing that much any longer. Strange part is he's had seasons where he's been equally successful as that season. I'd rather lose games that way than lose games the way they currently do.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:35 am to ShortyRob
Look the bottom line is the SEC is to big for Harris he doesn't belong there
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:37 am to tigerfann83
quote:Here is your guy RB10. He clearly thinks it is Harris
Look the bottom line is the SEC is to big for Harris he doesn't belong there
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:39 am to ShortyRob
Been saying and I'll say again
LSU OL is less than par over a stretch of several years. We hear every year how great they will be then even the weak teams break through like butter.
I can't figure out what the problem is here since LSU recruits well.
Bad string of OL coaches?
What the answer here besides Les Miles?
LSU OL is less than par over a stretch of several years. We hear every year how great they will be then even the weak teams break through like butter.
I can't figure out what the problem is here since LSU recruits well.
Bad string of OL coaches?
What the answer here besides Les Miles?
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:40 am to ShortyRob
Not to mention, Harris was offered by...
Ohio St
Ole Miss
Bama
Houston
Baylor
Auburn
Arkansas
aTm
and many others. I'm pretty sure Urban Meyer, Lane Kiffin, and Art Briles wouldnt have 'missed' on Harris.
Ohio St
Ole Miss
Bama
Houston
Baylor
Auburn
Arkansas
aTm
and many others. I'm pretty sure Urban Meyer, Lane Kiffin, and Art Briles wouldnt have 'missed' on Harris.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:41 am to slackster
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adjusting your scheme to fit the talents of the individuals you have or forcing players to adapt to a static scheme?
In my post, I don't see the coaching staff changing their scheme soooo.....
Time to make a change on both fronts.
Either way is fine with me as long as a change is made to this team.
I like the word "static", sums this offense up in its entirety.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:47 am to FATBOY TIGER
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In my post, I don't see the coaching staff changing their scheme soooo.....
And thats precisely why it's 100% their fault, and they should be shown the door.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:49 am to SportTiger1
Remember how bad Driskel looked at Florida? He was looked at as worse than Jennings. He was God awful.
Well, he changes programs and goes
63% 4,026 yds 27tds and 8ints
I dont think some people realize how much scheme matters in college football. It shouldnt be difficult to be a successful QB in college. Go listen to Dilfer's podcast from yesterday. He is damn near mesmerized we cant figure it out
Well, he changes programs and goes
63% 4,026 yds 27tds and 8ints
I dont think some people realize how much scheme matters in college football. It shouldnt be difficult to be a successful QB in college. Go listen to Dilfer's podcast from yesterday. He is damn near mesmerized we cant figure it out
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:50 am to lsupride87
Wow.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:51 am to KingofthePoint
I have been sick with damn bad virus going around mobile for last 5 days. Every analyst I have seen who is also a QB has said it is system not just Harris. Record Sec now and u will hear it from multiple sources
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:59 am to lsupride87
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Here is your guy RB10. He clearly thinks it is Harris
So, 1 in 50+ responses. I'd say that proves my point that the majority of the fan base understands it's a disconnect at both ends.
Harris has failed to improve within the scheme and the coaches have failed to adjust to Harris' abilities.
The latter is the more egregious offense, hence the reason more people are calling for Miles and Cam to be fired than Harris to benched.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:01 pm to ShortyRob
I blame offensive scheme far more than the coached fundamentals.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:01 pm to RB10
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Harris has failed to improve within the scheme and the coaches have failed to adjust to Harris' abilities.
Its that but I am just shocked at how poor his mechanics are at this stage after working with outside consultants like whitfield. The scheme has nothing to do with poor mechanics.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:05 pm to nola000
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nola000
Good job linking 2 threads which prove my point.
Hell, the first one which the thread was a response to, admits that coaching is a problem in the fricking title.
I swear, some of you seem to think it's impossible for people to blame Harris AND the coaching at the same time.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:05 pm to BeeFense5
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Its that but I am just shocked at how poor his mechanics are at this stage after working with outside consultants like whitfield. The scheme has nothing to do with poor mechanics.
Heres another one RB10
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