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re: for the old-timers - the end of the Jim Smith era

Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
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Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:23 pm to
this thread makes me wonder if Will Clark was the most important recruit in any sport that LSU didn't get...

he was a badass at Jesuit around that time and went to Miss St. when Skip was just starting out...

i wonder where other similar baseball players went in that time period when LSU was a nonentity?

maybe they took less money to sign when drafted? UNO was good in the 80s but not before then...
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
14978 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:30 pm to
I went into a game in the mid '70's so I'd have a nice quiet place to study. Maybe 25 people were there all sitting behind home plate. All you could hear was the pop of the ball in the mitt or an occasional bat on ball.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3156 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 7:54 pm to
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So for those that were around at the time - was he just a crappy coach


His 1967 and '68 teams finished the regular season tied for first in the SEC West. His 1975 team was considered the best team in SEC history up until that point--first SEC team to ever hit the 40-win plateau. Skip Bertman's first visit to LSU was as an assistant coach for Miami in the late 1970s--Coach Smith swept Miami in that series. Paul Mainieri played for him for a while and later returned to LSU to lead it to a national title.
Posted by COPIOUStiger1
goin' back SOUTH OLE SONS
Member since Nov 2005
1369 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 8:57 pm to
Cool stories...my dad was at LSU during the late 70's and he used to take my mom to baseball games for a "cheap date"...I think you could get in free with student ID...he said there were zero people in the stands...probably good for a "cheap feel" as well knowing my dad

just to be accurate...my pops was there in the early 70's as well...undergrad, MBA and PHD and he said the baseball stadium was dead the whole time.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 9:20 pm
Posted by montana
Bozeman, MT
Member since Dec 2008
1411 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:10 pm to
I grew up on the same street as the Smith family. Coach Smith sold us our baseball and softball uniforms. He was a kind man.

We went to a game in the late '70's. It was empty, but I met Rudy Macklin.

In 1989 I was bartending, and a few guest said that college baseball will be as popular as college basketball in 20 years. They made a damn strong prediction that was true.

Skip Bertman would come in by himself before or after a game, in the '80's, to enjoy himself, and he was rarely ever bothered by guests. He is one of the most approach sports figures at LSU.
Posted by DrD
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
2609 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:42 pm to
True on most accounts. I was a walk-on in the mid-70's and there was always a spot for anyone who felt they were good enough and wanted to "try out." I respected that about the environment and coach back then. Unfortunately, recruiting was not nationally what it is today - but then again neither was football.
One moment I do recall from my freshman days was going 4-4 in scrimmage and trying to see if Coach Smith was "aware" of my accomplishments. He was sitting way up high in the stands at Alex Box.
I honestly think I would have made the team had I been smart enough to do the following:
#1 - Not try out for position w incumbent all-SEC performer in front of me (2nd base as I recall)
#2 - Not run trial time to 1st base from right side: should have went from left side and told coach I was switch-hitter
#3 - Not went out and partied (per usual) the Friday night before final practice (cut day)

Oh well, I can't complain. I was still playing baseball against the best players in the country every year through MSABL (Men's Senior Adult Baseball League) until recently. I guess you could say he was not a good judge of talent....
Posted by beauthelab
Member since Feb 2008
4740 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:52 pm to
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I doubt anyone on here actually went to baseball games back then.

I'm showing my age, but I went to them. Not many others did. I remember it being hot and those ineffective fans on the rafters. "Press box" was a wooden table-like affair at the back of the grandstand. It was nothing like it became when Skip arrived.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Member since Mar 2006
60265 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 9:55 pm to
It was awesome because you could sit wherever you wanted. I'd take my boys and we'd sit by first base. Great view of the field. Stretch out and lean back on the seats behind us. Ah, the good old days.


Of course, the baseball itself sucked.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
7674 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:15 pm to
'71-'72 lived off nicholson, g.i. bill.
people would sit in stands and smoke dope.

i don't know who won.
Posted by Tomball Tiger
Magnolia, Texas
Member since Nov 2005
280 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:26 pm to
I was there the year Smith left and Jack Lamabe took over. I walked-on as a junior (after running track at McNeese) and made it to the last cut. Lamabe was definitely an improvement over Smith, but no one really gave a crap about baseball back then. I loved the chance to practice for a few days at Alex Box, but for most everyone else, it wasn't a big deal.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4703 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:29 pm to
I went to some with my buddies because we loved baseball. Maybe 100 people there. Your student id got you in, no charge. I remember a very good hitting first baseman, anybody remember who that was? Went on to be a doctor I think.
It was baseball in its purest form. You could hear the manager talking to the pitcher out on the mound, every glove pop, the ball whizzing by. Quiet, green, bucolic.
Posted by Tomball Tiger
Magnolia, Texas
Member since Nov 2005
280 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:35 pm to
Funniest part of the game was when Big Red was in the stands. When the opposing manager would go out to the mound to talk to his pitcher, Big Red would do a marching cadence for every step the manager took, "Hup, hup, hup!". It annoyed the hell outta the managers, and they'd stutter their steps sometime, just to try and throw off old Big Red. He was sooo loud, because there were few people in the stands. We loved it!!
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
Sparta
Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 10:39 pm to
Lamabe recruited a guy I coached with... Showed up at his house, gave him $10.00 and sent him to the store to get a six pack of Dixie so his Dad and Lamabe could talk, lol...my friend signed and played one year before transferring. Said Lamabe's jersey would be stained with tobacco juice from spitting on himself, lol . dude was like Buttermaker from Bad News Bears!!!
My friend has won a 5-A State
Championship as a Coach and is now at a smaller school as AD.
This post was edited on 5/5/13 at 10:40 pm
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 11:04 pm to
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that college baseball will be as popular as college basketball in 20 years. They made a damn strong prediction that was true.
at LSU maybe. Come on, man.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87435 posts
Posted on 5/5/13 at 11:09 pm to
Mike Saab showed me a picture from his playing days and he is in the alex box outfield standing in front of a plain chain link fence
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76664 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 12:37 am to
quote:

this thread makes me wonder if Will Clark was the most important recruit in any sport that LSU didn't get...

he was a badass at Jesuit around that time and went to Miss St.


Lamabe was a jerk while recruiting Will Clark and lost him to MSU as a result.

quote:

i wonder where other similar baseball players went in that time period when LSU was a nonentity?

maybe they took less money to sign when drafted? UNO was good in the 80s but not before then...


UNO was great in the 1970's, too. UNO was the first school in the state to go to the D2 CWS ('74) and the D1 CWS ('84). When LSU saw what Ron Maestri was doing, they went and hired a real coach. The rest is history.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1488 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 1:04 am to
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Jimbo Smith was the football equipment manager. Being baseball coach was a part-time job if he had time to do it.
Baseball was definitely not a priority back in the time to Jimbo Smith was head coach.


True that. Baseball was a non-revenue sport to the Athletic Dept. and was treated as such. But with the exception of a few programs (like USCw), few schools invested in their baseball programs in those days.

Then ESPN came along and that changed everything. Because 99% of the college football and basketball games were covered by the traditional networks at the time, baseball was the only opportunity for ESPN to get college sports on their schedule. And they struck gold... One word: Omaha. The rest is history.

One humorous incident about Lamabe. He was extremely laid back, even by baseball coach standards, and almost never came out of the dugout. Too much effort. But we were playing Navy one time and the Navy pitcher dropped the ball in the middle of his wind-up. Just dropped it right on top of the mound and it slowly rolled to the grass.

The umpire just waved it off and yelled "No pitch!" That woke up the crowd and Lamabe. ("What did he say? 'No pitch'...?") Lamabe strolls out to home plate to remind the ump that once the pitcher flinches into his wind-up, it's either a ball, strike or balk. The ump realized his mistake and started walking away from Lamabe, around and around and around the plate. He was too embarrassed to talk to him. (He was a very young ump.) Finally, the third base ump came up and stopped the circus. The ump then yelled "Ball". and the crowd (<100) gave him a standing ovation.

Shortly afterwards we got a new AD by the name of Broadhead and he knew all about TV revenue. He came from Miami where there was an assistant coach that was very frustrated by the lack of opportunity to move up....
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 4:35 am to
Yeah I went to baseball then. It was lonely. Of course basketball was packed.
Posted by dimet
North Carolina
Member since Feb 2009
189 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 5:16 am to
The problem was that the best players were wearing football uniforms. Jay Blass was the player of the year in NO and he never played baseball. Kent Nicar was drafted by the Yankees, Bob Lane and John Ed Bradley were both all state and NONE of these even guys sniffed a baseball field. Coach Mac was adamant about his football players being football players. He made it known that hoops at the Fieldhouse during the off season was a no no...players didn't listen to that rule!
Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 5/6/13 at 8:59 am to
I agree with an early poster, who went to bb games back then?
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