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re: Explain It to Me Like I’m 5, Why is LSU All of a Sudden Running Great the Last 6 Quarters?

Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Txtiger90
Sugar land, Tx
Member since Jan 2013
255 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:35 am to
Scheme has changed & blocking has been better. Goin with hat on a hat and running counters
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
11757 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:36 am to
We used to run inside zone where running backs have to make QUICK decisions and hit the holes that open on the run

We have now been running gap schemes (power, counter, trap) that allow a patient back like TDP to know where to look for the hole and press it.

Example: to run power, the RB must side step, receive handoff, press A gap and follow guards or leads up through the hole. If A gap is there they just bury it for 2 yards. If the blocking develops you have potential for large gains.

TLDR: TDP runs gap scheme better than zone due to his physical attributes and vision. It’s that simple. Took too long for the staff to try it.

Relation:

Great Zone Runners : Addai, CEH, Warrick Dunn, and Mike Shannahan RB

Great gap runners: Frank Gore (the best of all time iyam), Laveon Bell, TDP
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:38 am
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
7412 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:39 am to
Probably practiced withOUT O, he had NO idea what the game plan was, he was meeting with SW by design
Posted by charlestonchief
Member since Sep 2006
648 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:41 am to
He always ran hard, now he has some daylight. They need to keep it up and integrate more rpo’s, they actually work with a running game. Hopefully they have more than that counter play, because it’s defendable with a disciplined front
Posted by Yippie_Ky_yae
Member since Jun 2019
4764 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:48 am to
Jack Marucci
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2415 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:57 am to
The Guards are not zone blocking at all. They are pulling, and so are the tackles. It's beautiful.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:58 am to
A good coach would see the weakness before they played a game and have some different style fronts available to try in the first few series of the first game.
we had nothing and the kids knew it. now they have a scheme they can execute and ... boom. 287
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7612 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

What have we done that is different to finally breakthrough against very good competition?



IMO, O let the coaches go nd do their thing. Before the season he said this is his style of offense and defense. It didn't work and he knew changes were needed. He let his staff do what they thought best.
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:42 pm to
And pulling both guard and tackle
Posted by msptigers
LSU Alumnus
Member since Jun 2021
755 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:44 pm to
We aren't running "Joe Brady's offense" anymore
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
2321 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 3:54 pm to
They finally schemed to their players strength. Zone blocking failed miserably for our line and our RBs. Gap scheme and power are what they’re better at. By a wide margin. The counter worked beautifully bc our guard and tight end were owning their assignments all day. TDP is a very good runner for this scheme as well.
Posted by Joreffy
Member since Feb 2019
46 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:25 pm to
Jack Mashburn
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
23008 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

We aren't running "Joe Brady's offense" anymore

Remember the beginning of 2019 when people here were posting about how CEH needed to be benched? I do and you were probably one of them

ETA: Interestingly CEH's best game through 7 in 2019 was against Florida just like TDP's this year.
This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 4:38 pm
Posted by mtnhighTiger
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since Jan 2010
4476 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:44 pm to
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A real coach makes those adjustments after the first half of game 1.



FIFY
Posted by ColdTurkey
Where the Buffalo roam...
Member since Nov 2019
7698 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:52 pm to
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Mashburn baby. If he's not on scholly, he needs to get one ASAP.

It’d be awesome to see O present him with a scholarship in the locker room if he isn’t already on scholly.
quote:

Everytime he was on the field, I watched him this game. I'm curious what his actual grades will be but I didn't see him miss one block. Just squared up and got physical. It was so refreshing to watch. Need more players like him on this team!

I’m about to watch the replay on ESPNU and I’m gonna key in on him. I got lost in the sauce watching the game so it’s a lil bit blurry
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32107 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:55 pm to
It's a simple as this. Jake Peetz picked up an old NFL Strategy Board Game (circa 1970s) at a garage sale, and discovered there's a basic off-tackle run play called a "fold" which is successful for 5 or more yards 90% of the time, if properly executed.

Well, he tried it out in practice, then in real game situations. It turned out Florida was completely unable to stop that run, and never was able to adjust through the course of the game.
Posted by Zippydog
metairie , La
Member since Jan 2020
1149 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 4:57 pm to
Yes , I agree that a real coach makes blocking adjustments ( actually in preseason ) , instead of waiting for 6 games to figure things out . We were only paying O close to 3/4 million per game by the way .
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 5:02 pm to
We went away from the Brady offense, to a more run oriented lineup. We added a blocking TE, and sat an extra WR.

I heard Slinger drew it up, but who knows actually? Since Ed was already on his way out, he probably wasn't mandating the change. Or understand how to.
Posted by ewilliams000
Castor Springs
Member since Feb 2012
1997 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 5:10 pm to
Isn't Mashburn basically performing a blocking FB duties. I once threaded that we needed a blocking FB similar to Cory Carter. I got tarred and feathered for suggesting such nonsense. You downvoter guys know who you are.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15769 posts
Posted on 10/18/21 at 5:45 pm to
The O line stopped that zone blocking thing and began man on man blocking with counters and pulling linemen
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