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re: Ethan Frey...Is the plan for him to take over for JJ at 1st??
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:23 pm to notbilly
Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:23 pm to notbilly
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Vast Majority? sure. But Jared Jones is on this team b/c he was able to get an NIL deal. He had a bonus number that he told teams he needed in order to leave LSU. That number needed to exceed what he was promised in NIL.
He was also a draft eligible sophomore last year, rather than a junior, and thus retained leverage into this season. Not the same situation as Frey.
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Posted on 6/11/25 at 2:29 pm to KCSunshine
Dawg, he’s gone. His skill set will have him somewhere in double A ball this time next year.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:56 pm to notbilly
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I don't know if it's happening yet, but it will eventually.
Unless baseball magically becomes a profitable endeavor, no it won’t. Baseball players are never going to get $500k plus in NIL money. Thats what it’s going to take for them to consider NIL to. Sacrifice their leverage in the draft, possibly even more
You can downvote this all you want but you’re wrong. No one is going to shell out that type of NIL money for a sport like baseball. They just aren’t
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:58 pm to notbilly
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But Jared Jones is on this team b/c he was able to get an NIL deal.
He’s on this team because he was a sophomore and could still improve his slot money
Posted on 6/11/25 at 5:40 pm to notbilly
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That isn't the norm
You can tell who only follows the draft for LSU players and don’t understand how it works. The whole impetus behind seniors losing their leverage in their last year is to say we’ll take it or leave it, so MLB teams can use their allotted money to sign other HS/junior(rs SO) players for well above slot. This happens all the time, 1.5-2x slot Isn’t uncommon, go and look at the MLB Central Draft Tracker from the last 10 years when money became paramount.
Bottom line is that Ethan will be offered significantly more than he will be able to earn for NIL. No NIL contract or collection of such will lead to a $500k+ pay day. MLB Draft will. He’s a junior so that $500k is either take it and run, or leave it on the table and come back and sign for a case of Powerade and a plane ticket next year. It’s a no brainer
Posted on 6/11/25 at 5:47 pm to PurpNGold1985
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Bottom line is that Ethan will be offered significantly more than he will be able to earn for NIL. No NIL contract or collection of such will lead to a $500k+ pay day. MLB Draft will. He’s a junior so that $500k is either take it and run, or leave it on the table and come back and sign for a case of Powerade and a plane ticket next year. It’s a no brainer
People also don’t realize that the signing bonus is what they have to live on while they’re toiling away in the minors on salaries that aren’t even livable wages. Getting $100k in an NIL deal only to sign for substantially less than that as a senior doesn’t sound great when you’re going to make $800 a week in A ball. The pay scale is a joke so the signing bonus is everything
Here is an article that breaks down everything
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As a junior, you just don’t turn the money down because it won’t be there as a senior. As a sophomore like Jones was, you have the luxury of betting on yourself to improve your bonus while also getting paid in college. He didn’t have as much to lose by coming back. Herring was a little different as a pitcher and the injury rate and cost being exponentially higher
People should also probably go ahead and prepare themselves for next year being Curiel’s last season
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 6/11/25 at 5:56 pm to lsufball19
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People should also probably go ahead and prepare themselves for next year being Curiel’s last season
Yeah he is a draft eligible sophomore and a potential high 1st rd pick.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:00 pm to notbilly
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But Jared Jones is on this team b/c he was able to get an NIL deal. He had a bonus number that he told teams he needed in order to leave LSU. That number needed to exceed what he was promised in NIL.
Frey is a Junior and it’s apples and oranges compared to Jones. You lose your bonus leverage once you complete your college eligibility. It’s a no brainer for him more than likely. There is always a chance but it’s 85/15 he is gone. NIL isn’t going to change that fact.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:03 pm to lsufan1971
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Frey is a Junior and it’s apples and oranges compared to Jones.
Yup. And if $250K in NIL was close to what Jones was offered in the draft, MLB didn’t view him as a Top 150 player which is one of the principle reasons we are saying that Frey is likely gone.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:13 pm to KCSunshine
JJ was a very good 1st baseman....and not an easy position to play.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:19 pm to KCSunshine
If the goal is to make a career in mlb he needs to go this year. Outside of being a top level already proved everything draft prospect he is in a near perfect position right now. He has great measurables and has shown that he can be a great hitter. All with a HS career that back up his athleticism.
An MLB will pay significant money now for his potential alone and he will be afforded patience while they work him through positions and he works his way up.
If he comes back he will likely lose his leverage not only from losing a year of age but also because by playing a full season at a position teams would have a better idea of what his ceiling is which right now is mostly unknown but expected to be extremely high.
An MLB will pay significant money now for his potential alone and he will be afforded patience while they work him through positions and he works his way up.
If he comes back he will likely lose his leverage not only from losing a year of age but also because by playing a full season at a position teams would have a better idea of what his ceiling is which right now is mostly unknown but expected to be extremely high.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:33 pm to Jay Quest
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One year as a DH isn't enough to assume MLB GMs are salivating.
Amazing how many on here dont realize that point. Also unless you get drafted in top 4-5 rounds the life of a Milb player is shite compared to a college player as far as quality of life over the net year.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 7:36 pm to Tigerfan1274
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Yup. And if $250K in NIL was close to what Jones was offered in the draft, MLB didn’t view him as a Top 150 player which is one of the principle reasons we are saying that Frey is likely gone.
We are still throwing these numbers around like frisbees but if the settlement goes through the NIL value stuff will be trimmed way back. That may change a lot of dynamics in this draft and on HS recruits
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:39 pm to Jay Quest
Have you ever seen him run? He can fly and has way more athletic ability than almost all the starters. Brown is the only one that is faster than that guy. Im convinced he is faster than Stanfield.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:49 pm to Lakeboy7
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He is going to get drafted 5 rounds ahead of JJ, not coming back.
Wtf is this shite
Posted on 6/11/25 at 8:55 pm to KCSunshine
Ethan loses all leverage as a senior and as much as I want him to stay I want him to get his due in the MLB!
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:11 pm to lsufan1971
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Frey is a Junior and it’s apples and oranges compared to Jones.
I haven’t compared the two but everyone keeps making that connection. I used Jones as an example of what we can pay someone in NIL that JJ prioritizes. Jay absolutely wants Frey back. As I said in other posts, I think Frey will leave. But it’s not outside the realm of possibility that he returns.
People in this thread keep thinking that NIL money from the 2023 team somehow applies to next years team. Jay is fundraising more than people think. It’s not an accident that Gordon suddenly has a gate named after him.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:39 pm to lsufball19
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Unless baseball magically becomes a profitable endeavor, no it won’t.
Profit isn’t required. It’s who is willing to pay the players. The school may be limited in what they can directly pay. But that isn’t stopping the player from signing a deal with local businesses for their NIL. Gordon can throw up a billboard with the player and pay them for that as it’s a legitimate business purpose at fair market value. Until we see what Deloitte does, we don’t really know. And I think it’s going to be hard to argue that someone can’t get paid their contact rates bc whatever someone is willing to pay them is a fair market value.
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Baseball players are never going to get $500k plus in NIL money
Ryan Prager says hello. Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:47 pm to PurpNGold1985
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You can tell who only follows the draft for LSU players and don’t understand how it works. …. This happens all the time, 1.5-2x slot Isn’t uncommon, go and look at the MLB Central Draft Tracker from the last 10 years when money became paramount.
I didn’t say it was rare. Last year, the Yankees only paid one draft pick in the first 10 rounds significantly above his slot… it was Herring at 2.35x above slot. It’s bc he was a sophomore drafted in the 6th. Hurd was their 3rd round pick and they paid him his slot value which they did with the others except the seniors they drafted to give them room to pay Herring. Herring was the outlier for them.
I hope Frey gets a huge pay day. But I don’t see him getting over double his slot like Herring.
Posted on 6/11/25 at 9:48 pm to KCSunshine
His stock is only going up in the draft
This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 9:49 pm
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