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ESPN continues to be so naive regarding Burrow's performance at LSU
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:12 pm
Short article about how underwhelming Burrow is
They conveniently leave out the fact that Burrow has his best games in LSU's most important games of the season. He makes plays happen when he HAS to and usually gives the WRs the best chance to make something happen.
The fact they used "no TD passes against Mississippi State is concerning" is laughable considering they have arguably a better defense than Alabama's (or anyone in the Big 12 or Big 10 for that matter). Can we honestly say we beat Auburn or Georgia with anyone from the past 4 years under center? I don't think so.
It's also easy to forget the kid has been on campus for a whopping 3 months and has led LSU to 3 BIG wins in his first year as a starter, in a new conference, in a new system. What he's done for LSU thus far is anything but underwhelming.
They conveniently leave out the fact that Burrow has his best games in LSU's most important games of the season. He makes plays happen when he HAS to and usually gives the WRs the best chance to make something happen.
The fact they used "no TD passes against Mississippi State is concerning" is laughable considering they have arguably a better defense than Alabama's (or anyone in the Big 12 or Big 10 for that matter). Can we honestly say we beat Auburn or Georgia with anyone from the past 4 years under center? I don't think so.
It's also easy to forget the kid has been on campus for a whopping 3 months and has led LSU to 3 BIG wins in his first year as a starter, in a new conference, in a new system. What he's done for LSU thus far is anything but underwhelming.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 2:16 pm
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Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:13 pm to reauxl tigers
We would be 5-3 without him
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:21 pm to reauxl tigers
For sure, but you have to admit that his stats against UF, UGA, and MSST are really bad
Joe Burrow's Last 3 Games (@ UF, UGA, MSU)
50/92 (54%)
174 YPG
5.66 YPA
0 TD / 3 INT
Joe Burrow's Last 3 Games (@ UF, UGA, MSU)
50/92 (54%)
174 YPG
5.66 YPA
0 TD / 3 INT
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:26 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
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For sure, but you have to admit that his stats against UF, UGA, and MSST are really bad
These are also 3 of the best defenses in the country. He isn't going to go out and light up a defense, but he is going to control the game and give us a chance to win. If our receivers could catch balls consistently, we probably beat Florida and his Comp % definitely goes up.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:28 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
That’s understandable. However, they don’t tell the whole story. For example, we were way too conservative against Miss St. after he threw that first pick. I mean we were doing QB draws on 3rd and 8 inside the 20 lol. That wasn’t his fault.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:30 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Pretty sure there was some dropped passes in there by the WRs.
Also outside of the targeting play, how come nobody is talking about the 2 big plays that were blown dead due to forward progression? Pretty sure Joe's numbers would have looked really good with the out route to Clyde that the officials blew dead as he spun out of the tackle and had 60 yards of green grass in front of him. Frick the $EC officials they took the fun out of a true arse whippin that was due to Moo St.
Also outside of the targeting play, how come nobody is talking about the 2 big plays that were blown dead due to forward progression? Pretty sure Joe's numbers would have looked really good with the out route to Clyde that the officials blew dead as he spun out of the tackle and had 60 yards of green grass in front of him. Frick the $EC officials they took the fun out of a true arse whippin that was due to Moo St.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:31 pm to AbiTxTiger
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For sure, but you have to admit that his stats against UF, UGA, and MSST are really bad
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These are also 3 of the best defenses in the country. He isn't going to go out and light up a defense, but he is going to control the game and give us a chance to win
And Bama's another good defense.
They're ranked 15th. MSU is 6th, UF is 17th and UGA is 23rd.
This game he's going to have to go out there and win it for us, not just manage the game so we're position to kick FGs.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:32 pm to reauxl tigers
Oh and let's add that the FLA loss wasn't remotely his fault. Lack of pressure, lack of protection and dropped passes killed us in that game.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:33 pm to AbiTxTiger
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These are also 3 of the best defenses in the country. He isn't going to go out and light up a defense, but he is going to control the game and give us a chance to win. If our receivers could catch balls consistently, we probably beat Florida and his Comp % definitely goes up.
If he plays the way he's played vs UF, UGA, and MSST on the whole, Alabama blows us out.
He'll need to have his best game as a Tiger. I think he can do it, but I have to admit it's blind optimism.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:36 pm to vidtiger23
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I mean we were doing QB draws on 3rd and 8 inside the 20 lol. That wasn’t his fault.
That almost assuredly was his fault. They simply didn't trust him to make a play vs. MSU, hence the runs on 3rd and long and playing for a FG.
ETA - And FWIW, he didn't have to be great to beat MSU, so that's understandable. He'll have to be great to be Alabama.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:36 pm to Goldrush25
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This game he's going to have to go out there and win it for us,
what about the defense?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:41 pm to reauxl tigers
Also why do so many ignore the fact it was raining and windy for the first half of the game? Am I naive thinking that has an effect on consistently passing the ball?
Also, his stats against UGA were ridiculously good. How is that so easily overlooked??
Also, his stats against UGA were ridiculously good. How is that so easily overlooked??
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:41 pm to reauxl tigers
He is a good QB. Wonder who in the SEC besides Tua they think is better? Other than Tua I can't think of a better OB in the SEC this year.
His stats would be a lot better if our Oline wouldn't have had so many injuries and thus moving parts, our WR's wouldn't have had such a bad case of the dropsies, and if they could get more separation. But he has overthrown on quite a few deep balls. Needs to get the timing down better on these. Did they take running stats into account in their article? He has been a good runner and knows when to run and keep the chains moving. But stats don't measure his best qualities which are his leadership and intelligent play.
His stats would be a lot better if our Oline wouldn't have had so many injuries and thus moving parts, our WR's wouldn't have had such a bad case of the dropsies, and if they could get more separation. But he has overthrown on quite a few deep balls. Needs to get the timing down better on these. Did they take running stats into account in their article? He has been a good runner and knows when to run and keep the chains moving. But stats don't measure his best qualities which are his leadership and intelligent play.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:42 pm to slackster
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That almost assuredly was his fault. They simply didn't trust him to make a play vs. MSU, hence the runs on 3rd and long and playing for a FG.
I agree he has to be much better if we want to beat Bama. He just didn’t have it last game for whatever reason. But our coaching staff has to have a better game plan in the red zone. Enough with the constant 50/50 jump balls to our smallest receivers expecting them to make a play. We need more creativity. Which is why I said it’s not all his fault.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:46 pm to Havoc
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Also, his stats against UGA were ridiculously good. How is that so easily overlooked??
He was 15/30 for 200 yards. No TDs, no INTs.
I'm not going to beat him up for that kind of game, but that likely gets us beat soundly by Alabama.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:47 pm to Havoc
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Also, his stats against UGA were ridiculously good. How is that so easily overlooked??
15/30 for 200 yards
That's pretty much average.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:48 pm to Steve Janowski
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Oh and let's add that the FLA loss wasn't remotely his fault. Lack of pressure, lack of protection and dropped passes killed us in that game.
Doesn’t change the fact he didn’t play that well,
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Pretty sure there was some dropped passes in there by the WRs.
Are we the only team with WR drops? The only team with spotty OL play? The only That’s played good defenses?
If you want to argue the stats don’t matter cause we are winning fine, but At what point is it fair to say his stats show we’re not getting effective play at QB?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:48 pm to Topwater Trout
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what about the defense?
yeah it is way more than Burrow who is going to have to go out there and win it for us if we are going to beat Alabama. Of course the defense is going to have to have their best game of the season and especially need White back for the entire game if we are going to stay in this game. The Oline is going to have to step up and play better than they have all season. The WR's can't have any drops and need to do something with the ball after the catch and need to get open. RB's are going to have to have their best game ever as LSU Tigers same with the special teams. Also coaching staff is going to have to have its best game. So yes Burrow needs "to go out and win it for us" as do every other player and coach. They all need to "go out and win it for us" as Bama is a very complete team.
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:51 pm to slackster
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If he plays the way he's played vs UF, UGA, and MSST on the whole, Alabama blows us out.
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UGA
15/30 passing for 200 yds, 0 ints, running for 66 yds and 2 TDS. That wasn’t a good showing?
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