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re: ESPN - Shady's Bar employees: "Victims threw first punch"
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:10 pm to LJGFORMVP
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:10 pm to LJGFORMVP
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and someone tell me why the bouncer's word is somehow considered gospel
A sober, impartial, 3rd party witness. It's the most credible word on the situation yet.
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:10 pm to TheDoc
quote:If they ambushed you with the intent to do you bodily harm the answer would be: When you get tired of kicking their sorry arse.
At what point do you determine someone is defenseless?
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:10 pm to winkie
Any way the guy could've had the cracked or broken vertebrae before the incident just wondering...maybe from a previous fight but never went to the doc
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:10 pm to Cadello
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If they ambushed you to do you bodily harm the answer would be: When you get tired of kicking their sorry arse.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:10 pm to bmy
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How is he worthless because he didn't see the entire thing?
pretty much
im sure a bunch of people saw bits and pieces of it and their quotes arent being considered stone cold facts
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:10 pm to ForeLSU
I would tend to trust the bar manager over the girl Lowery's plowing that night.
If anything, her judgment is already questionable for going home with him...just saying.
If anything, her judgment is already questionable for going home with him...just saying.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm to Antonio Moss
Antonio first thing you need is some of those pimp arse bow ties.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm to deSandman
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This started off as a group of beasts attacking a kid for honking his horn, with a marine coming to the rescue.
Now its a regular bar fight started by a douche stalker.
Regular bar fights started by douche stalkers don't lead to charges for the side opposite the douche stalker. No matter the details of the fight.
THIS.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm to bmy
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How is he worthless because he didn't see the entire thing?
he's basically saying "i'm not going to tell you if I saw him in the fight, but I saw him standing around at some point"
what can you get out of that?? lol
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm to LJGFORMVP
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and someone tell me why the bouncer's word is somehow considered gospel
odds are he is an lsu fan/student and drinking also
this is just another witness, and im sure there will be another account tomorrow that conflicts it, thats how this clusterfrick of a situation has been
and these accusers don't have an agenda lol.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm to Link00707
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm to LJGFORMVP
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im sure a bunch of people saw bits and pieces of it and their quotes arent being considered stone cold facts
Which is why this case goes nowhere.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm to Myshkin
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The ignorance found in ESPN comments has no rival.
Has anyone noticed this was the first post after the OP. Nice job myshkin, almost as insightful as "first".
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:11 pm to ProjectP2294
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A sober, impartial,
you sure about this?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:12 pm to Geaux2002
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lcid, arguing this with Antonio Moss is pretty pointless. Like many, he has made up his mind that this is all Lowery's doing and not another person has any fault.
It is great....He is a Know it All...but Admits He hasn't Seen It ALL (The Evidence That is) Attorney.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:12 pm to Cash
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Antonio first thing you need is some of those pimp arse bow ties.
His torso isn't conducive to wearing bow ties.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:12 pm to rosiebean
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sorry, but this news is irrelevant
Actually, not so much.
If this were to go to trial and the only evidence that pointed toward JJ being the kicker was AL's 'word' (and his friends' word), well, his lies in a police report cast doubt upon his 'word'. The video is a mess. Other witnesses contradict him. He's not exactly a stand up guy, between the prior conviction and the lies to the police. I've seen many an investigation where police and the DA's office advised the 'victims' to drop it because they could not win at trial and didn't want to waste money and resources (including a friend who was date-raped at LSU and who had *much more evidence* supporting her case).
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:12 pm to LJGFORMVP
quote:When i want any logic from you I'll ask. Scram.
all this shite goes out the window once a person laying on the ground gets kicked in the head
dudes on the ground, fights over, you win, walk away
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:12 pm to EWE TIGER
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Here's what I found interesting, the part of the police report that said one of the "victims" didn't want to get medical attention but his father made him. Sounds like Dad saw an opportunity for some $$$.
very interesting
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:12 pm to TheDoc
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he's basically saying "i'm not going to tell you if I saw him in the fight, but I saw him standing around at some point"
what can you get out of that?? lol
He said I can't say for certain whether or not Jefferson fought at all. I did see him standing around while people were still getting into it.
That's called being honest. That makes him a damn good witness. It's a piece of the story -- not the entire thing -- but it's not like that's the only statement from the bar employees.
If Lowery was waiting outside to start shite, he's fricked. Every day this story looks more and more like simple battery will be the charge.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 10:14 pm
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