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re: ESPN - Shady's Bar employees: "Victims threw first punch"
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to Cadello
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to Cadello
quote:
Very relevant ...It turns the thug players beat an Angelic hero Marine to a pulp, to: Jackass sorry excuse for a marine and his buddies lay in wait for LSU players to fight and maybe injure them. You people are starting to get so stupid here that I'm about to change my opinion on someone getting kicked in the head. You try to ambush people you take your fricking medicine like a man. Premeditation is a bitch when it goes south.
all this shite goes out the window once a person laying on the ground gets kicked in the head
dudes on the ground, fights over, you win, walk away
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Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to Shaka Zulu
quote:Oh Really?
The DA has enough for charges right now, but is looking to make sure they have all of the evidence necessary for conviction. DA's are evaluated based on prosecution rate and they are trying to fit the charge to the evidence. Could be the difference between first and second degree battery.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to Smoke Green
quote:BRPD
i'm dumfounded that the local popo haven't interviewed Shady's mgmt. yet.
it took an AP writer in Houston to find these nuggets of info.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to Smoke Green
This needs to be resolved. Aren't you guys tired of talking about this? I know I am.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to Cash
And FWIW, I think it's funny that the bouncer confirms that the truck wasn't trying to leave (as Lowery stated)....Rather, it aggressively drove right into the midst of the fight.
This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to TheDoc
quote:
elle, who's going to take nathan fishers place when he passes away
Where do I sign?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to TheDoc
quote:
when they no longer pose a threat I guess
probably when that person is lying on the ground not really moving
:shrug:
I think BRPD has enough egg on their face right now. They have an entire nation thinking they are incompetent by not even asking the bar owner and staff....its going to take a LOT of clear overwhelming HD Video evidence to push this thing much further imo
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to EWE TIGER
quote:
Have you been in a bar fight? At what point do you determine someone is defenseless? Have you seen people on drugs/alcohol that have "super-human" strength?
one of the worse beatings I've ever seen was from a guy who got pummeled and was laying on the ground crying for help...turned out he was getting a pair of brass knuckles out of his pocket. When the other guy bent down to try to help him up (after kicking his arse), the dude on the ground about killed the guy with three quick hits.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:04 pm to Cash
So who cares if JJ was kicking Lowery, if Lowery isn't the one with broken vertebrae?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to LJGFORMVP
quote:
all this shite goes out the window once a person laying on the ground gets kicked in the head
+1
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to GeauxAggie972
quote:
If the story is true that a punch happened in the bar, then the "victims" waited outside for the players to leave, that (to me) is pre-meditated. They were looking to ruff shite up. But they messed with the wrong crowd. They got exactly what they deserved...broken bones and all. If someone is waiting for me to fight, I will do everything I can to render him harmless, including kicking him on the ground. You don't like it? Don't frick with me anywhere for any reason. I don't play by rules when someone is waiting for me to engage in a fight. frick 'em.
You sir, ought to trademark that isht!
Well said... :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
If the story is true that a punch happened in the bar, then the "victims" waited outside for the players to leave, that (to me) is pre-meditated. They were looking to ruff shite up. But they messed with the wrong crowd. They got exactly what they deserved...broken bones and all. If someone is waiting for me to fight, I will do everything I can to render him harmless, including kicking him on the ground. You don't like it? Don't frick with me anywhere for any reason. I don't play by rules when someone is waiting for me to engage in a fight. frick 'em.
You sir, ought to trademark that isht!
Well said...
:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:This post was edited on 8/25/11 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to LJGFORMVP
quote:
sorry, but this news is irrelevant
the only thing that matters is who kicked the defenseless person in the head and who caused 3 broken vertebrae
thats all i care about, thats all the cops care about, thats all anyone should care about
This started off as a group of beasts attacking a kid for honking his horn, with a marine coming to the rescue.
Now its a regular bar fight started by a douche stalker.
Regular bar fights started by douche stalkers don't lead to charges for the side opposite the douche stalker. No matter the details of the fight.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to LJGFORMVP
quote:
dudes on the ground, fights over, you win, walk away
From that video, can you determine this is the case?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to winkie
quote:
I vote Antonio, for LSU's pro-bono legal team!
Don't do that, he's already arrogant enough.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:
"I'm not saying (Jefferson) wasn't in the fight. I'm not saying he was, but I did see him standing alone while stuff was still going on," Neldare said.
I love how in all of this, people ignore this specific quote.
I hope to God the LSU players are all innocent in all of this, but some of you are really jumping to conclusions in all of this.
If these two people clearly saw JJ not in the fight at all, why did they specifically mention they couldn't say if or if not JJ was involved?
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:
I'm a fricking attorney.
Enough said.
quote:
I specifically said that this doesn't automatically clear Jefferson, but has dealt a tremendous blow to the victims' case.
Agreed...if Lowery story can be screwed with and proved he lied/bs the police then yes.
My point is that nobody has seen his official statement yet. Correct? You say he was drunk, he wasn't drunk the other day he went down to the station to give a statement. IF he lied he is screwed. My point was that nobody knows if he lied in his official report because nobody has seen the interview, which even you have admitted.
Lowery so far seems like a jack arse, but if for some reason he actully went to the PD and told them....hey I started some shite..etc...even though it makes him look bad then he may not be screwed when it comes to money suits etc. or even the charges.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to Bigkat80
quote:BooYah! Cheers brother and thank you for your service to this great nation!
Okay I can tell you with absolute certainty if you are in a fight I only Know one way that is to fight to win and stop the other person from doing me harm just cause you got a guy on the ground thats when you kick his face in that tends to stop all fights you can like it or not....In my 22 years in the military I never saw a Grunt whine like this little Bitch is doing, he is a psyco stalker, and he got his arse handed to him my guess for running off at the mouth with all kinds of racial slurs and for sucker punching a guy in a large group this loser deserves more than that.....the other so called Victims(most likely his boys) got what they deserved for screeching the car to halt and jumping out talking gun....Done deal Free the Tiger Four Dude....
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:05 pm to TheDoc
quote:
when they no longer pose a threat I guess
probably when that person is lying on the ground not really moving
from the video, it's pretty clear he was getting back up when he got kicked and after he got kicked. he was then helped up and ran off with the aid of another person.
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:06 pm to TheDoc
quote:
when they no longer pose a threat I guess
probably when that person is lying on the ground not really moving
:shrug:
Just ask a cop
Posted on 8/25/11 at 10:06 pm to deSandman
quote:
This started off as a group of beasts attacking a kid for honking his horn, with a marine coming to the rescue.
Now its a regular bar fight started by a douche stalker.
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