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re: Ed O’s recruiting classes were 5th, 4th, and 3rd, who will match that?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:32 pm to SportTiger1
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:32 pm to SportTiger1
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Was miles great at okie state? I don't remember him being an ace recruiter before he got to LSU
I’ll answer your question with a question. Was LSU a great recruiting school before Saban and Miles arrived?
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:51 pm to TrueTigerTale
Well I won't deny that saban made lsu into a juggernaut and a cool place to go.
Keep in mind kids committing these days only know the lsu from 2003 forward...really 2010 forward. They don't know the 90s like we do.
And any way, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the candidate list isn't going to have anyone that isn't at least an above average recruiter.
Keep in mind kids committing these days only know the lsu from 2003 forward...really 2010 forward. They don't know the 90s like we do.
And any way, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the candidate list isn't going to have anyone that isn't at least an above average recruiter.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:32 am to TrueTigerTale
And he developed none of them
Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:02 am to Jthomley
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LSU leads the nation with most top 10 wins since 2017.
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This was a ? On cbs a few wks back , even the college gurus got it wrong .... The answer was LSU 13 , bama / Georgia 9
Jesus H Christ, all you miserable shits are downvoting this? Can't stop slobbering Nicky's knob to take a little pride in something positive about the team you're supposed to root for?
FFS, we fired the guy already, so you don't have to be a damn sheep and automatically shite on anything good we've done in the last 5 years-
I read that statement and I'm proud of our team- does that mean we can't do better? Or should we ignore losses we should be won? No, but hey don't count us out, and don't hope we lose so you can shite on the coach....
Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:34 am to TrueTigerTale
People say LSU recruits itself, which is true in part, but it takes an elite recruiter to take it to that next level and get nearly ALL the kids to stay home, especially when Bama and ATM are at the level they are now. UT and OU joining will bring even more competition.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:00 am to TrueTigerTale
Look at Ed's first two classes. A high percentage of these guys never hit the field at LSU and many are gone because of discipline issues.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:05 am to TrueTigerTale
id take lesser rated classes if theres more development. O failed at developing a lot of that highly rated talent especially on the O line. The fact that theres not a true SEC center on the roster is insane.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:07 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:09 am to TrueTigerTale
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Was LSU a great recruiting school before Saban and Miles arrived?
Dinardo signed some elite classes but hired the wrong defensive coordinator.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:15 am to TrueTigerTale
quote:dinardo had a ton of talent come through the program while he was here
Was LSU a great recruiting school before Saban and Miles arrived?
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:45 am to The Pirate King
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People say LSU recruits itself, which is true in part, but it takes an elite recruiter to take it to that next level and get nearly ALL the kids to stay home
Wow, thank you, this guy gets it. Yes, part of the reason is LSU and the other critical draw for recruits is the coach LSU hires.
Miles could recruit plenty of quality Olinemen but not enough quality QB’s. nor linebackers until Aranda ariived. After Miles left, O couldn’t get enough quality Olinemen to come here, and he couldn’t get enough quality linebackers after Aranda left. But O could draw in plenty of quality QB’s.
So you see LSU fans, it does matter a lot who LSU hires and how well he and his staff recruits. For example, Kiffin would definitely bring in quality QB’s and athletes on offense but will he and his staff be able bring in enough quality defensive players?
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:48 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:57 am to TrueTigerTale
Just as important as X's and O's, you gotta be kidding.
This is where all the idiots are wrong, you can win championships with 3 & 4 star recruits coached properly, proper roster management, and proper game planning. Les and Saban both did it here.
This is where all the idiots are wrong, you can win championships with 3 & 4 star recruits coached properly, proper roster management, and proper game planning. Les and Saban both did it here.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 6:02 am to JR
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This is where all the idiots are wrong, you can win championships with 3 & 4 star recruits c
No, but you can sign 3 and 4 stat players who turn out to be 5’s. There is not a coach in America that can teach a player speed. You recruit players that have it. End of story!
Posted on 10/19/21 at 6:13 am to JR
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This is where all the idiots are wrong, you can win championships with 3 & 4 star recruits coached properly, proper roster management, and proper game planning. Les and Saban both did it here.
Alright idiot name a program that has won a NC since the playoff era started with 3 and 4 stars?
NONE
Every single winner has had a consistent top 5 recruiting class
Notre same
Iowa
Wisconsin
Those schools hit their ceiling with there 3 and 4 stars. They are consistent at winning 9/10 games but will never get over the hump because their play style is catered to lesser athletes.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 6:15 am to TrueTigerTale
Well, the 2 coaches before him also did a great job. They also recruiting offensive linemen.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 6:48 am to Galactic Inquisitor
1.) 5* RB John Emery: hasn't done much at all since he got here, suspended
2.) 5* CB Stingley: Great freshman season, not so great SO season, and now he's injured
3.) 5* OL Kardell Thomas: has done 0 in 3 years, been injury ridden
4.) 4* OLB Marcel Brooks: great freshman season, lots of playing time, and then.... left?
5.) 4* S Maurice Hampton: lots of potential, and then.... left?
6.) 4* WR Trey Palmer: very underwhelming despite his few plays he's made on special teams and a few receiving TD's (expected way more at this point)
7.) 4* LB Donte Starks: dismissed from team
8.) 4* QB Peter Parrish: left team and had issues
9.) 4* DL Siaki Ika: left team because CEO rarely played him
10.) 4* OT Ray Parker: got in trouble consistently
11.) 4* RB Ty Davis Price: has been the only one with some plays made, but Corey Kiner has his number as a freshman
12.) 4* Devonta Lee: starting to maybe, possibly mesh now? Still not as productive as you would expect
stolen from the recruiting board just the 2019 class. O's recruiting is a myth
2.) 5* CB Stingley: Great freshman season, not so great SO season, and now he's injured
3.) 5* OL Kardell Thomas: has done 0 in 3 years, been injury ridden
4.) 4* OLB Marcel Brooks: great freshman season, lots of playing time, and then.... left?
5.) 4* S Maurice Hampton: lots of potential, and then.... left?
6.) 4* WR Trey Palmer: very underwhelming despite his few plays he's made on special teams and a few receiving TD's (expected way more at this point)
7.) 4* LB Donte Starks: dismissed from team
8.) 4* QB Peter Parrish: left team and had issues
9.) 4* DL Siaki Ika: left team because CEO rarely played him
10.) 4* OT Ray Parker: got in trouble consistently
11.) 4* RB Ty Davis Price: has been the only one with some plays made, but Corey Kiner has his number as a freshman
12.) 4* Devonta Lee: starting to maybe, possibly mesh now? Still not as productive as you would expect
stolen from the recruiting board just the 2019 class. O's recruiting is a myth
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 6:49 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 6:55 am to geauxtigers87
His recruiting isn’t a myth. Almost every other school
In the country wanted those guys but he got them. What it appears he lacks is talent evaluation and player development skills.
He gets highly rated guys onto campus, but are they the right guys for what is needed or are they just the highest rated guys?
In the country wanted those guys but he got them. What it appears he lacks is talent evaluation and player development skills.
He gets highly rated guys onto campus, but are they the right guys for what is needed or are they just the highest rated guys?
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 7:04 am
Posted on 10/19/21 at 6:58 am to Oilfieldbiology
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or are they just the highest rated guys?
i lean this way with O. he's a star watcher. oh he's a 5 star get him, ignore the 3 star
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:03 am to Magician2
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Alright idiot name a program that has won a NC since the playoff era started with 3 and 4 stars?
NONE
Clemson 2016, Einstein
2013 - 2016 only one top ten class, 2014. Looks like as many 3-stars as 4 & 5 star combined.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:07 am to JR
That team also had a transcendent quarterback with some elite skill players.
It’s more sustainable to build through recruiting 4* and 5* guys as they generally have a higher floor and ceiling.
However, player evaluations must take place and development is 100% needed.
It’s more sustainable to build through recruiting 4* and 5* guys as they generally have a higher floor and ceiling.
However, player evaluations must take place and development is 100% needed.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 7:11 am to TrueTigerTale
And the Oline was still $hit
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