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re: Ed Orgeron meddles with the offense?
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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If you're thinking it's a two loss season or better, your bitching is idiotic
Someone may have a different opinion than you? The nerve!
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Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:54 am to GeauxTigerTM
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The fact that a few short years ago 10-2 with no hardware was seen as the program in stagnation
Another myth for the victimhood
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:55 am to SammyTiger
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Les, who of course was a huge offensive meddler, sorta let his DC do his thing.
im sure he did to an extent. You don't think he would say come on we need to dial up a blitz or offer some other kind of input from time to time? if not that is pretty scary
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:55 am to Penrod
Ed is maturing as a coach.
"Meddle" can mean different things.
I don't have an issue with HCs integrating a game plan, e.g., 'we know this team struggles stopping the run, so let's run the ball more than usual or the like. IMO, that's not meddling and Ed should be doing this as HC.
"Meddle" can mean different things.
I don't have an issue with HCs integrating a game plan, e.g., 'we know this team struggles stopping the run, so let's run the ball more than usual or the like. IMO, that's not meddling and Ed should be doing this as HC.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah 10-3 was
If we go 10-2 we have to win the bowl game.
9-4
10-3
10-3 isn’t really what anymof is are looking for.
Especially with what were returning this year and losing next year
But idk
When I look At it we could return a decent Chunk of starters on both sides.
If we go 10-2 we have to win the bowl game.
9-4
10-3
10-3 isn’t really what anymof is are looking for.
Especially with what were returning this year and losing next year
But idk
When I look At it we could return a decent Chunk of starters on both sides.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 11:57 am
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:57 am to SammyTiger
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If we go 10-2 we have to win the bowl game.
Agree. I don't know many who wouldn't.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Should LSU go 10-2 with a bowl win on top, it would be a damn good season.
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If you're thinking it's a two loss season or better, your bitching is idiotic
Rog, I'm genuinely interested in your opinion here. How many 2 or 3 loss seasons can Coach O have here without winning the West before a change is made. The reason I ask is I believe once you laughed at the idea that he would be fired after year 5 without winning the West or going to the playoffs.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Another myth for the victimhood
It's a myth that on this very site we were told not to talk highly of 10 win seasons under Miles because 10 wins in the age of 12 game schedules plus bowls games was nothing to rave about?
I'd encourage someone to go track these talking points down...it'd be easy to find...but you'd just pivot when presented with those quotes.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
A few but they’re some of the fringe guys.
11-2 is a good season. Would be our best since 2011.
11-2 is a good season. Would be our best since 2011.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 11:59 am to GeauxTigerTM
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It's a myth that on this very site we were told not to talk highly of 10 win seasons under Miles
10-2 or 10-3?
Huge arse difference.
Miles 2 loss seasons are universally heralded. shite, he won a NC with one of them
Is this all about defending Miles honor with you?
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
To be honest with Milea those teams were allmso good the 2 loss seasons felt like they should be better
We were so good in 2010.
I still Just can’t believe we didn’t have 250k so pay Cam Newton.
We were so good in 2010.
I still Just can’t believe we didn’t have 250k so pay Cam Newton.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Another myth for the victimhood
I remember reading several versions of "with this talent any idiot can win 10 games at LSU." Hell Sammy just said it in the post above mine, perfect timing.
You're going to sit here and tell me that wasn't the prevailing thought in 2012, 2013?
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:02 pm to SammyTiger
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To be honest with Milea those teams were allmso good the 2 loss seasons felt like they should be better
2006, maybe. The Auburn game sticks out like a thumb but we were incredibly talented. It was still a fantastic season
We definitely overachieved in 2010
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
In 2010 the defense was Incredible, Stevan Ridley was an NFL caliber back.
JJ was hot shite at QB.
We should have gone 12-1. If Hatcher tackles the WR and not Mo Claiborne and actually covers that deep pass.
JJ was hot shite at QB.
We should have gone 12-1. If Hatcher tackles the WR and not Mo Claiborne and actually covers that deep pass.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Another myth for the victimhood
"the victimhood"
Perfect! That one cracked me up!
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:18 pm to Penrod
Not sure why anyone is surprised. O is basically a politician telling the fan base what they want to hear but then doing whatever he wants behind closed doors. He’s doing a good job but I still don’t believe a word of what he says in his press conferences
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:20 pm to Baloo
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also patly O's fault for hiring a guy without doing due diligence)
there were some reasons that a lot of people tend to forget about in that situation. First was that Canada had won some kind of OC or asstistant coach of the year award recently and was considered one of the top OC's in the country at that time. Orgeron had mentioned hiring the best coordinators in the country and felt he had to make a big splash type hire to quell the fans and make them feel better about his hiring. And this is probably the biggest reason Canada was hired without so called due diligence": he was under time pressure to make a hire quickly as it was deemed important to make quickly for recruiting purposes as recruiting was at peak season.
Now that Coach O has settled into the LSU job and established himself as a legitimate and solid HC and thus feeling more secure and confident in the job, it is doubtful that he would feel those type pressures and make a hiring mistake like he did with Canada.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:25 pm to boxcar willie
^^Well Said^^
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:28 pm to boxcar willie
So you’re saying that O makes bad decisions under pressure?
Posted on 8/6/19 at 12:34 pm to boxcar willie
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First was that Canada had won some kind of OC or asstistant coach of the year award recently and was considered one of the top OC's in the country at that time.
I think he was some kind of awards finalist. Ree can get us up to speed on that, he kept mentioning it every 5 minutes.
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Orgeron had mentioned hiring the best coordinators in the country and felt he had to make a big splash type hire to quell the fans and make them feel better about his hiring
Why couldn't he just trust in his conviction that he knows that whoever he hires is one of those best coordinators? Do you see Saban going out and trying to snatch every award finalist? He's supposed to be the expert in these matters, not a bunch of media members that vote on awards. This is a really weak reason to make the hire that he did.
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And this is probably the biggest reason Canada was hired without so called due diligence": he was under time pressure to make a hire quickly as it was deemed important to make quickly for recruiting purposes as recruiting was at peak season.
Making a hire for any other reason than the guy is the best fit schematically for your program is an egregious error in judgment. It should never happen. You can't excuse it away by saying he was under certain pressures. He will be under pressure again at some point in the future. Who you are as a man is defined by how you react under pressure. I firmly believe that.
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 12:36 pm
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