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Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:24 am to Paddyshack
To be fair, Alevia kept requesting the SEC for the right to sell beer. He kept it on the burner for years until the support was there. I have no illusion that it was for fan experience and not bottom line but give the man his due. He fought long and hard for us to enjoy beer in Tiger Stadium.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:24 am to schwartzy
What do you guys think Ed Orgeron has learned from his experience at Ole Miss running that program, to now running LSU's program.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:26 am to dgnx6
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You can't understand what he's saying half the time and he still sold us on Canada and then Ensminger being the best Ocs in the country.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:28 am to Kracka
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What do you guys think Ed Orgeron has learned from his experience at Ole Miss running that program, to now running LSU's program.
I think he learned that he can't coach either side of the ball, but if he manages the overall program and coordinators well, he can do well for himself.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:44 am to BayouCowboy
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What the hell are you babbling about?
Ed has changed the perception of his ability to be a head coach. He's fixing mistakes he created.
That's the truth.
The lines? He was hired in 15. 4 cycles have come and went, the dline is squarely on his shoulders. Now the oline had transfers and injuries, that happens, can't blame him for that.
Corners? Failed to sign a single one. I said I was worried about experienced depth. It bit us in the arse last season and almost bit us in the arse Saturday. Good thing theirs were worse.
The Offense? He hired Canada. A guy he clearly didn't vet. That Pitt offense people were clamoring about threw the ball 24 more times than Les did in 15 with one more game played. People thinking we were going to throw the ball didn't pay attention.
Ensminger sat in every offensive meeting and helped plan the "Stone age" offense for 6 years. Yet o thought it was a great idea to hire him and sell the fans on him being the best out there.
The fans had every right to question his decisions.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 8:46 am
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:46 am to The Pirate King
I'm stating facts jack.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 8:47 am
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:47 am to Kracka
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What do you guys think Ed Orgeron has learned from his experience at Ole Miss running that program, to now running LSU's program.
1. Get a QB developed by another program who he trusts to throw
2. Stay out of the offense
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:51 am to Damone
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If hope that Eddy wasn’t listening to the fans too much. He’s the head coach for a reason.
It's a good thing he wasn't listening to the "fans" on this board for the past couple of years.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:03 am to dgnx6
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Ed has changed the perception of his ability to be a head coach. He's fixing mistakes he created. That's the truth. The lines? He was hired in 15. 4 cycles have come and went, the dline is squarely on his shoulders. Now the oline had transfers and injuries, that happens, can't blame him for that. Corners? Failed to sign a single one. I said I was worried about experienced depth. It bit us in the arse last season and almost bit us in the arse Saturday. Good thing theirs were worse. The Offense? He hired Canada. A guy he clearly didn't vet. That Pitt offense people were clamoring about threw the ball 24 more times than Les did in 15 with one more game played. People thinking we were going to throw the ball didn't pay attention. Ensminger sat in every offensive meeting and helped plan the "Stone age" offense for 6 years. Yet o thought it was a great idea to hire him and sell the fans on him being the best out there. The fans had every right to question his decisions.
There's obviously some decisions that haven't worked out or recruiting that hasn't panned out. It's not a perfect science. If you can't see where he's built a good support staff, started to fill holes, made good hires and put the team on a path for future sustained success then you are being willfully ignorant. We now have a national brand and are recruiting coast to coast. We have a DL haul for 2020 that may be one of our best ever. We currently have one of our best WR corps ever, a great QB and will be set at RB for the next few years. Stop focusing on the past.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:18 am to Paddyshack
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Fair, but we still implemented it.
And you better believe I enjoyed a few cold ones against GSU.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:29 am to DustyDinkleman
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We need to slow down with this shite
While he is long way from achieving what Dabo has there are certainly parallels. Both were criticized for having never been coordinators; neither were popular choices of their fanbases; they both had significant failures (Dabo had a losing season) and O’s are well known; and, neither were predicted to have a long tenure.
It took Dabo years to build that program and, ironically, it was their peach bowl win against us that changed the perception of “clemsoning"!
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:06 am to schwartzy
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Miles was killing this program... The same media that defended Les is now saying how bad his offense was.
I'm amazed that this post didn't bring a certain poster sprinting to his keyboard to defend Les, as he does every time, and at the same time call you "odd" for bringing Les up.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:09 am to schwartzy
BRADY OR BUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:11 am to Paddyshack
Newsflash Einstein. What you think means jack shite. Everything you me mentioned was in the works for quite some time
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:11 am to schwartzy
It's amazing what one good assistant hire can do for a team.
And O gets all the credit for realizing that hire needed to be made, and to do it.
I think he tired to do it with Canada, but quickly realized Canada is just a gimmick guy.
Brady isn't a gimmick guy. He's running an offense that has proven itself in many places at all levels of football.
When so many people gave LSU shite about hiring O as HC, due to O's past at Ole Piss, I just thought, well, what about Bill Bellichek? What about Pete Carroll? What about all the people that have gone through the Nick Saban School for Wayward Coaches?
Lots of coaches have bombed out in their first HC job, went back, learned, and came back stronger. No reason to think O couldn't do that, and it looks like he is doing that.
And O gets all the credit for realizing that hire needed to be made, and to do it.
I think he tired to do it with Canada, but quickly realized Canada is just a gimmick guy.
Brady isn't a gimmick guy. He's running an offense that has proven itself in many places at all levels of football.
When so many people gave LSU shite about hiring O as HC, due to O's past at Ole Piss, I just thought, well, what about Bill Bellichek? What about Pete Carroll? What about all the people that have gone through the Nick Saban School for Wayward Coaches?
Lots of coaches have bombed out in their first HC job, went back, learned, and came back stronger. No reason to think O couldn't do that, and it looks like he is doing that.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:52 am to dgnx6
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LSU fans are so insecure about Orgeron they have to continue to bash the best coach LSU has had. You've basically just made shite up. He doesn't answer honestly, it's called coach speak. You can't understand what he's saying half the time and he still sold us on Canada
Perhaps his predecessor has the slightly better winning percentage than Saban but Nick was the better coach and resurrected LSU football. Miles’ later tenure results warranted every bit of the criticism he has received.
Orgeron is much more forth coming than Miles ever was during time here. I understand Coach O just fine. Maybe you should get your hearing checked. As for Canada, he made a mistake. Miles hired Malaveeto which produced one of the worst defenses since Lou Tepper.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:54 am to dgnx6
dgnx...
The firing of Canada was the best decision he's made until the hiring of Brady. Both decisions were program building game changers. I dont care if you like or hate Coach O. The fact that all of this is working right now, is all that matters. dgnx, you are blind to the success happening right in front of your face. Enjoy it man, and stop complaining about things that are moot. Enjoy the season.
The firing of Canada was the best decision he's made until the hiring of Brady. Both decisions were program building game changers. I dont care if you like or hate Coach O. The fact that all of this is working right now, is all that matters. dgnx, you are blind to the success happening right in front of your face. Enjoy it man, and stop complaining about things that are moot. Enjoy the season.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:59 am to schwartzy
We comin
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:15 am to Honest Tune
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I would take it one step further and go so far as to say that Ed is actually listening to the fans. These things that we are seeing are all things that we as fans wanted to see...
I'm sure this thought is unpopular amongst many fans, but fans don't always know what's best for the team and program. I want a head coach who wants a wining, elite program. I want that coach to make changes to improve the program/team based on his assessment from his professional experience. I don't expect him to try to make advancements based on what the fans say should be done. There may be times the wishes of the fans are in line w/ his assessment. When that happens, we (the fans) feel the program's responding to us, but it's actually a coincidence of our wishes and his assessment
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