re: Ed Orgeron and our fan base.

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Why do so many of our fans just despise Ed O? I don’t get it.

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I don't despise him, but I really doubt he can sustain anything here at LSU.

Simply put, he's a salesman/con man. His singular claim to fame as a coach is as recruiter. He can talk a good game, and sell people on stuff (he gets kids to come here, he can fire up the room when he pitches something).

But he lacks a lot. He doesn't have the in-depth knowledge to implement a system on either side of the ball, and he doesn't have the situational in-game awareness to call a game. He will never win the chessmatch side of the game.

His concepts of "program" is to copy stuff he's seen work here and elsewhere. He doesn't have his own vision.

I'm not saying this to bash him. I do think he's very good at asking "what do you need?" and then addressing that. But I don't think he's the guy that says "here's what I need", and then crafting things to that vision.

This works when you have a 2019 season come together- high level coordinators, lots of talent, add the right parts. But that doesn't sustain- the coordinators do the heavy lifting, and want more credit (and money). Someone else comes and scoops them up, and we're left with O, trying to sell a new group things. He may get another good group and make another run, but all he's doing is gathering the pieces.

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Finishing in a NY6 bowl and a top 10 finish in a season where you legitimately had the hardest schedule in the country is just OK? Jesus

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Yes, it was OK.

Why do you think it was better than that?

Given LSU’s talent and stature over the last 20 years, 9-3 should be considered just an average, OK season.

We were never in real contention for an SEC or national title.

I’m not gonna kiss Ed’s arse for doing basically the minimum.

And these preseason rankings you keep hanging your hat on are worthless click bait for the most part. So who cares.

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I do however want to see him finish at least top ten a few years in a row

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2016 #13
2017 #18
2018 #6
2019 #1
2020 UR

You were saying? At least look up stats if you don’t know anything.

It’s obvious which year is the outlier, but people can’t get past their disdain for O. Not to mention the outlier season had a ridiculous amount of extenuating circumstances and bad luck.

I’ve heard the Woodward Pelini push from people in the program. Loooong before I ever stepped into tRant.
See this is where I don't buy it. You're close enough to the program to be hearing all of this stuff, clearly a die-hard LSU and Coach O fan, and yet only made and account in the premier LSU sports message board 10 days ago?

Yeah you're either someone's alter or you're here to push a narrative. You're not here for actual discussion. If you were you would have made an account years ago.


Funny enough I’m neither. I’ve just avoided this thing because I heard it was worse than the comment section on WAFB. Honestly not that bad. Plus I wanted to see what it’s all about. Did not disappoint. I’ve had a handful of posts talking about things other than Ed O. Im just new here. Simple as that.

SOS in 2018 was 14th. This guy just makes shite up, pretty much everything he says is false.

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Frogman93

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You know there is a quote function, right.

Use it and it would make your posts easier to decipher.

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It’s obvious which year is the outlier

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Burrow is the outlier so far in O's tenure here

Also doesn’t take into account the 7 OT game vs ATM.

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Apparently people who actually know football and analyze thought differently about LSU in 2018. Especially considering the absolutely BRUTAL schedule we had that year.

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The schedule is brutal every year. This is the SEC West. But why was 2018.so brutal? Auburn finished 7-5. Texas A&M wasn't an amazing team that year either. So was it brutal because we played Alabama at home and at Florida in Dan Mullen first year after Florida went 4-7 the year before?

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Are we supposed to shite on him when he finishes top 10? Because that’s what you’re doing.

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I'm not shitting on Coach over finishing in the top 10? I'm just not praising him because he did what he was expected to do. As I pointed out earlier as long as you win one game between Auburn Alabama Florida and Texas A&M, you can pretty much sleep walk into a 9 and 3 record. Oh and he beat a non power five football program to get to 10 wins.

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ESPECIALLY considering where the program was the previous few years.

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the previous year's LSU finished 9-3, 8-4, 9,3. So yeah he kept the same record as the previous 2-3 years. Is that extra special or something?

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You dont understand the difference between going 15-17 in the nfl, and going 10-25 at ole miss?

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why dont you explain it to us