re: Ed Orgeron and our fan base.

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in the old days maybe. With Saban, Jimbo, and Mullen on the schedule every year, plus usually a big OOC game, plus Kiffin at Ole Miss, plus Georgia every 3 years or so.

It’s not a walk in the park

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I see the goal posts get moved for your boy Ed.

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See that’s the stuff that Irks me. The phrases like “he’s a used car salesman” or “he’s a mascot” “he’s a conman”.

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But that's what he is.

He's a high energy recruiter. A recruiter IS a salesman, whether you find the term insulting or not. They have the exact same skillset. And, sure, he couples that with a good eye for talent, but you can be the best scout in the world, and if you can't convince someone to sign, you're not a good recruiter.

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Ed O may not be the best Xs and Os guy but he has done enough at this point to at least respect the man.

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Calling him what he is, isn't disrespecting the man. It's being honest.

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Y’all are so used to seeing Leslie stumble his way around that when another guy comes in and isn’t perfect, y’all think it’s the same situation. It’s not.

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Les and O are two different situations, not remotely close to the same other than both could bring in good talent here.

Les was a "Michigan Man", and believed in the Bo Schembechler system to a T. Bring in good enough talent, and out-physical the opponent. Stand toe-to-toe and trade punches, and by the end of the game his guys will still be standing while the other guys will be beat up. This was our gameplan while he was here, and this was the attitude that led to our team whipping Miami's arse on the field and in the brawl afterwards in the Peach Bowl. It worked across the board, until Saban put a similar but BETTER program at Alabama.
Les didn't change things, because he refused to accept that Bama was going to be stronger than LSU.

O is more along the lines of Carroll at USC, or the old Miami "U" philosophy. Not as much emphasis on overpowering the opponent, but more intent on out-performing them at the skill positions.
His big flaw there, is that he only understands that at the general level. He doesn't know the game enough to actually install it himself, he needs to bring someone else in to do that.

Yeah but you can’t make bad hires if you’re dependent on coordinators for success. Saban could hire my dry cleaner as DC and go 15-0. O needs elite coordinators to avoid going 5-7 every year.

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You do realize he’s known to be a great d line coach. He’s gotten jobs for nfl teams at that position

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Being a position coach is a far cry from being a coordinator and implementing a system for that side of the ball.

And our d line has not been the strong point it was historically since he’s been head coach.

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Are you already projecting the new hires as losers?

Some fan you are

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Please provide a direct quote where I said anything negative about the new hires.

I believe I said time will tell on the 2 new coaches. But it’s a fact that NONE of the previous coordinators hired by Ed have panned out.

And if you are going to quote me, use the entire quote where I mentioned Canada, Ensminger and Pelini while also praising the Brady hire.

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Why do so many of our fans just despise Ed O?

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He is not Tom Herman.

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is not Tom Herman.

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nobody gives a shite about Tom Herman. o has given people reasons to not like him as a coach all on his own

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in the old days maybe. With Saban, Jimbo, and Mullen on the schedule every year 

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If you read the rest of the post I said CEO has to win one out of four against Saban, Jimbo, Mullen, and Harsin.

Besides, the posters on this board have assured me that CEO is a better Coach than Mullen, Jimbo, and Harsin. He also has a more talented team. So why should it be that hard?

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plus usually a big OOC game

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Big game? Yes. Against a more talented team? Nope. And if I'm to believe many people on here there head coach isn't as good. So again, why shouldn't he win that game?

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plus Kiffin at Ole Miss

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So Kiffin is a good enough Coach to Make Ole Miss a threat, but Coach O wasn't? LSU is also clearly more talented than Ole Miss player wise. So are you saying they are a threat because they have better coaching?

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plus Georgia every 3 years or so.

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We play UGA just as often as we do Vandy, USC, UT, UK, and MO. So once every 7 years we don't get a cupcake in the east.

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in the old days maybe. With Saban, Jimbo, and Mullen on the schedule every year, plus usually a big OOC game, plus Kiffin at Ole Miss, plus Georgia every 3 years or so.

It’s not a walk in the park.

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What should be the acceptable record for an lsu football head coach in your opinion?