re: Ed O win % will be lower than Miles

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Well this is a complete shite argument to compare coaches with over 10 years of tenure to one with three. We'll see what happens moving forward, but at this point in time yours is a complete shite argument.

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ha. 2005-7 same thing. Go look at the resume of wins AND WHO they had TO BEAT. Katrina in 2005 was really one of the losses. Their schedule was MURDER compared to the full 3 years here. Hell most of the SEC West were ranked in the Top 10 at one point.

This shite just blows me away. The man is coming off of the best season in LSU history and lost his 1st and 2nd string to the draft including losing his DC and the best passing coordinator in LSU history. He hired a new passing coordinator and DC who has a different style of defense than the one we had previously and the players we recruited in the past were recruited for Aranda’s style of defense not the style we have in place. It will take a little while to get the new players aligned. And to boot with this COVID bullshite they were not allowed to practice like they needed. With all this that has happened people are ready to fire the coach and his staff . WTF ? Give it some time to rebuild and get a grip.

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Well comparatively Chizik was 38-19 at Auburn and had a 15-17 SEC record. Orgeron is 42-12 at LSU with a 25-10 SEC record.

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well, after two years at Auburn, Chizik was 22-5, 11-5 SEC.

Then he went 8-5 (4-4) and 3-9 (0-8) and got canned.

My point is that it's very hard to label a coach a great success after one remarkable season. It might be an outlier. It was for Chizik. Was it for O? We don't know yet.

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I think 08 is a lot different if Perrilloux doesn’t get kicked off the team

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True, like this season would be different with Chase, Vincent and Shelvin not opting out.

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When all is said and done Ed O will leave LSU with a lower win % than Miles.

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So you’re saying he will only have the second highest winning percentage in program history?

Damn, guess we’re screwed.

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The man is coming off of the best season in LSU history and lost his 1st and 2nd string to the draft including losing his DC and the best passing coordinator in LSU history. He hired a new passing coordinator and DC who has a different style of defense than the one we had previously and the players we recruited in the past were recruited for Aranda’s style of defense not the style we have in place. It will take a little while to get the new players aligned. And to boot with this COVID bullshite they were not allowed to practice like they needed.

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So, y'all remember that thread I started earlier this season, asking whether O might forget about W/L, and just focus on getting the team ready for 2021?


That got downvoted into oblivion. It now looks like a good idea to me.

The season is lost, but we get to return everyone except Marshall. Nobody else looks draftable. Brennan did, but that's gone now. The offense should be a beast. If we can hone the defense into reasonable shape, say hold teams to 20 pts a game, we're a Top 5 team next year. Stingley and Ricks will be absolute studs. We just need the rest to be "average LSU" players, and it should happen.

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And I thought rickydaddy was a miles homer........

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actually, i’m not a homer for anyone.

i just think the whole “O inherited a shitty roster” narrative is ridiculous.

that roster was good enough for Les freaking Miles to take to #2 in the CFP Poll.

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remember, we were told O would elevate the program. O wasn't a hire to go 9-3 and a mid-tier bowl. He was supposed to elevate us immediately to championship-level. This wasn't a rebuild - O had loads of talent from the start.

So he SHOULD have a high winning percentage.

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1. Who exactly told us that Orgeron was going to “elevate us immediately to championship-level”? Not saying you’re wrong, but I would like a refresher on where this is coming from.

2. We went 15-0 and won a national championship in year 3. Orgeron currently has the highest winning % of any coach in LSU history. And the response is “yeah, but he was supposed to do that”? Give me a break.

3. This year is bad. I’m not going to act like it’s all sunshine and rainbows. But something to consider.. since 1935, there are only two LSU coaches who have not had a losing season in SEC play: Bill Arnsparger (1984-1986) and Nick Saban (2000-2004).

Les Miles went 3-5 in conference play in 2008. Three years later, we went 13-1 with an SEC title and another national championship appearance.

Paul Dietzel went 1-5 in SEC play in 1956. Two years later, we went undefeated and won a national title.

Legacies are not decided in a single season. All of these LSU fans spouting off about “this doesn’t happen at LSU” are delusional, and most of them never saw a game before Saban brought us to our first title in 50 years.

There are only three active head coaches who have won a title at their current school. Nobody sustains the level of success that LSU fans seem to expect, with the exception of Alabama (with the best head coach in the history of the game) and Clemson (playing in a completely non-competitive league).

Go ask Texas, Michigan, USC, Miami, or Nebraska about the “yeah, but we’re a blue blood” mentality. Anyone who thinks we should be able to go compete for titles every year, a standard we have never met as a program, just because we have been successful the past 20 years is an entitled brat. It’s a constant grind. And you have an entirely new roster every 3-4 years.

Which brings me to the entire point of this rant:

Does nobody recognize how absurd it is to state that Orgeron will eventually drop to the second highest winning percentage in school history as if that makes him a bust?

Agreed