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re: Durham is the linchpin

Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:17 am to
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10765 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Are you calling for other 3rd string players to get significant snaps?


Depends on what you mean by significant. He should get 5+ carries a game.
Posted by TigerBite
Dallas
Member since Feb 2004
2693 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:24 am to
Honestly, the problem is the scheme. It's terrible. Durham was just the 1st RB to recognize there was no hole and do something besides trying to run into a hole that was never going to open.
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
2304 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:27 am to
I get the feeling that the coaches are trying to find the best options at several positions. It seems to me that some of this should have been determined before the start of the season. Maybe our opening game losses contribute my observation. Just seems like this is a different team than our coach led us to believe preseason. Hopefully they can figure this out. I have no doubt that we have greater talent than South Carolina and our upcoming two opponents. I also believe we have better coaching and hope we see a better product against UCLA and South Alabama.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10765 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:34 am to
quote:

hope we see a better product against UCLA and South Alabama.


3 weeks to get right. I hope we solve some issues.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:40 am to
quote:

I think one of the biggest differences is he didn't run the intended plays as they were called.


but that’s how you’re supposed to run zone scheme

you are supposed to bounce and cut back and take what the defense gives you.

Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12606 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:42 am to
I heard Hester say this morning that we started running a lot more zone in the second half, because the SC defenders were being so aggressive trying to shoot gaps. I would be curious to see how the RBs’ production looked when accounting for zone scheme vs. gap scheme (counter/power/etc.) runs.

Don’t get me wrong, Durham looked great. Just curious how much impact the playcalling had.

It’s kind of weird, I’ve been bitching about not running more gap schemes for a few years now but now that we have finally started running a lot of them, it’s been extremely underwhelming. I don’t know if it’s because our OL is so used to zone blocking, or because our RBs are overcompensating for the different mentality required, or what. Probably a combination.

You would think RBs who are used to running zone would be too hesitant in gap schemes but it’s been the exact opposite. It’s just strange.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 10:44 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16956 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Depends on what you mean by significant. He should get 5+ carries a game.

If you want to give him a few carries a game, I’m fine with that. But if it’s 3rd & 3 and we are handing the ball off, I don’t want it to be to Kaleb Jackson.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12606 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:43 am to
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but that’s how you’re supposed to run zone scheme

you are supposed to bounce and cut back and take what the defense gives you.

Indeed. It seems like our guys think you’re not allowed to do that on a counter though.
Posted by TigerBite
Dallas
Member since Feb 2004
2693 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:49 am to
quote:

but that’s how you’re supposed to run zone scheme

you are supposed to bounce and cut back and take what the defense gives you.


Totally agree, but for whatever reason, it doesn't appear they are being coached that. (as poster above notes, they don't think they are allowed to...it has to be coming from somewhere).
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39839 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:50 am to
He reminds me of De’von Achane
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9545 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 10:59 am to
Achane at aTm is a good comp.
Durham, as I have said for weeks, is the next great LSU RB.
Start-stop, comes up to speed quickly, makes defenders miss and seems to bounce off would-be tacklers.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34201 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:13 am to
Hopefully strength and conditioning cant do too much damage this year to Durham. I'm afraid this offseason they'll bulk him up.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31147 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:20 am to
durham should be starting and taking 70% of the RB snaps. pretty easy to see he's the best back
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18794 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:21 am to
quote:

There's not really any good reason to have Kaleb Jackson getting any important carries at this point.



He needs to get handoffs or tosses where he is able to get to speed and I think he'll be a lot more dangerous. I'm NOT saying he's Derrick Henry, but Henry is sort of like that. Has way more success when QB is under center or he gets a toss while already moving. Taking handoffs in Shotgun at the still he often doesn't get his momentum.

All that to be said, Durham certainly looks elite and should get the bulk of the carries going forward.
Posted by TSS4LSU
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2003
1013 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:24 am to
He's not a 27th year senior with a special number jack.
Once hehets that then he can play alot.
Posted by 337giant
Member since Jul 2024
61 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:28 am to
Been saying he and Holly would be the best duo cause of their explosive ability . Hopefully Holly case gets done this week so he can return .
Posted by RobDione
Pensacola Beach
Member since Nov 2007
762 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 11:29 am to
Sad Prediction: This team is under conditioned. He will be over used and under blocked for. Three games and he'll be on the injured list. :-(((
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
6501 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:03 pm to
Our O-line is not perfect, but they are creating way more holes then they are getting credit for. Our 2 starting backs just have no vision right now. There were a few runs that vividly stick out in my mind, from both KJ and from JW, that I think Durham would have turned into big gains.

Offensive line did their job, and both KJ and JW had one guy to make miss at the 2nd level. There was a 2 way cut back on some occasions. Both backs chose to just lower their head straight into the guy in front of them instead of making one single cut to break free. Durham should get the next start just to see what he can do. It blows my mind how ineffective KJ is in short yardage situations with his size and athleticism.

1. 8:03 in 1st Quarter: KJ hits a massive hole straight behind C and RG. Campbell is already at the 2nd level taking on 2 lbs. All KJ has to do is make one cut to the right side and he is off for a big gain. He drops his head and runs straight into Campbell and the lbs for a 4yd gain

2. 11:03 in 2nd Quarter: Z. Thomas takes the counter up the gut, and makes the lb miss at the 2nd level. That's how you'd prefer your running backs do it. Perfect vision and picks up 13yds.

3. 13:19 in 3rd Quarter: KJ takes the it straight into the clogged up middle. Taylor kicks out the edge rusher. RT squeezes the end down to the inside and the cut back is wide open. One jump cut to the right and KJ walks into the end zone. Instead its no gain.

4. 6:57 in 4th Quarter: JW takes the hand off behind LG. Dellinger crashes down the end and gets to the second level to wall off one LB. There is an open lane right, and JW has a one on one with the other LB if he goes left. No one is to the right of Dellinger, so one jump cut to the right and he takes it for a big gain deep into the redzone. If he wins the one on one to the left he also can pick up some nice yardage. Instead he runs straight into the back of Dellinger for 3yds.

This shite is happening multiple times a game. Our guys can get the 3yds here and there, but Durham was the only one spotting the cutback lanes.


All that being said the O-line needs to improve on communication, short yardage, and redzone, but there are multiple big runs a game that our backs just aren't seeing.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
79199 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:06 pm to
Durham should be carrying the rock 20-25 times a game…
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 12:07 pm to
I am starting to think no one is adjusting the blocking before the snap.

we are doing nothing to identify and pick up blitzes.

Our RB in pass pro has no clue even when the blitzer shows blitz pre snap.
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