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re: Does Pole Vaulter Mondo Duplantis not want to compete for the US in the Olympics?

Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:25 am to
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:25 am to
He's lived in Sweden at times in his life, as his parents have a home there as well. More often in the USA but he has lived in Sweden. His parents are well versed in the professional track & filed circuit & obviously feel that being based in Europe at this point of his professional career is what is best for him. A 19 yr old kid did not make this decision. I have no problems with his parents looking out for his best interests.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:52 am to
if you had your choice wouldn't you choose Sweden as well? If he brings home a medal (to Sweden) he would probably have an inside track on gaining citizen ship to the country, which who in their right mind wouldn't prefer over this shite hole.
Posted by Tenntig
Franklin, TN
Member since Jul 2015
196 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:52 am to
Pull for the Americans. Chris Nilsen, Sam Kendricks and K.C. Lightfoot are the pole vaulters who will represent the United States in the Olympics. I'd love to see them sweep all three medals. Duplantis was born, raised and educated in Louisiana and received an athletic scholarship to LSU before for he abandoned the Tigers after a one year. Yet for years now he has cast his lot with Sweden. There are a number of LSU athletes who are members of foreign teams, but they were born and raised in the countries they will represent in Tokyo. The latest rationale is that Duplantis was virtually assured a spot on the Swedish team, but not that of the U.S. because the competition is better. If he wins, I'm sure there will be a lovely victory ceremony in Stockholm.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:55 am to
didn't realize he already had Swedish citizenship. Why is this even a question of who he would rather represent ? WTF would he rather represent the USA idiots over a country like Sweden?
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
10084 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:09 am to
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If I’m Missing something fill me in.

Others have posted the reasons why Mondo chose to represent Sweden; MONEY and he was guaranteed a spot on their Olympic team without having to qualify. T&F in Europe is comparable to the NFL here in the US. Would not surprise me if Mondo's contract with Puma is worth approx. $5M-8M annually with performance incentives such as setting new WR's and winning the Olympics and World Championships. At 19, (now 20) he is the greatest pole vaulter in the world and can compete for another 15 years at the elite level (Renaud Lavillenie is about to be 35 yrs old).

Let's stroll down memory lane regarding US athletes qualifying for the Olympic team. Remember the Dan O'Brien vs. Dave Johnson publicity stunt and commercials prior to the 1992 Olympics ? Reebok went all-in to promote who was the worlds greatest athlete. Dan was ranked the #1 Decathlete in the World and a heavy favorite to win Gold in Barcelona. During the 92 Olympic trials held in New Orleans, he passed on four lower heights because he felt comfortable that he would clear 16 feet. O'Brien entered the competition at 15'9" and missed on all 3 attempts. Basically getting a ZERO and earning no points. He failed to qualify for the US Olympic team even though he was ranked #1 in the World.

Same scenario can still happen to any US athlete who has a bad day during the trials and finishes outside of the top 2/3. Had LSU's Terrance Laird ran the same 200M time in the Olympic trials that he ran a week prior at the NCAA's, he would have made the Olympic team.

Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2483 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:32 am to
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The entire premise of the Olympics is to compete for your country. He's not competing for our country.

That is actually the exact opposite of what is stated in Chapter 1, Article 6 of the Olympic Charter.

"The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries."

LINK
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 11:38 am to
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United States soccer players that play professionally overseas still compete for the United States in international play. Soccer is a bad example.


There aren’t a lot of examples of dual citizens that play soccer but the goalie on England’s women’s National team is a dual citizen born in the US.

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don't understand why he can't compete professionally on the Euro track circuit while still competing for the United States in international events


Because of this.

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They all make the majority of their money off of endorsements


A pole vaulter winning gold for a European country is going to get more endorsement deals than a pole vaulter winning a gold for the US.
Posted by bertderouen
Member since Jan 2017
1218 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:07 pm to
What a frickin snowflake. Go jack it into your Blue Lives Matter flag.
Posted by bertderouen
Member since Jan 2017
1218 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:09 pm to
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You want everyone to be a bunch of white MAGA Patriots or else.


FIFY
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:11 pm to
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And you hate the people that represent this country because they’re “liberals,” lesbians, or have other political issues with our government that hasn’t treated them fairly.





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You people are impossible to please. You want our Olympic team to be a bunch of white MAGA Patriots and screw everyone else.



I think, in general, people want their Olympic athletes to love their country and want to represent their country.

I think people turn on athletes that disrespect the country on the Olympic stage.

This is completely logical.

You attempted (and failed) to play to emotion by making this about race, sexuality, and politics. I understand your attempt though. If you aren't able to define the position of those you disagree with, you aren't able to make an argument.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:17 pm to
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That is actually the exact opposite of what is stated in Chapter 1, Article 6 of the Olympic Charter.

"The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries."



I pull for athletes on the US Olympic team. I think the large majority of Olympic fans do the same for their respective country.

If you don't, ok. I find that odd, but you do you.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:19 pm to
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What a frickin snowflake. Go jack it into your Blue Lives Matter flag.



It's interesting to see the decay of patriotism.

You've managed to somehow tie this to police. I'd suggest you aren't smart.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:21 pm to
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What a frickin snowflake. Go jack it into your Blue Lives Matter flag.
not very bright
Posted by NOSA
Member since Jan 2004
10323 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:50 pm to
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But, he chose another country over the USA. I don't have to pretend he didn't.


You also don't have to give a shite? It's sports and he's half Swedish. It'll be ok, not life or death stuff here.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 12:51 pm
Posted by el gato
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
2483 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:16 pm to
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I pull for athletes on the US Olympic team. I think the large majority of Olympic fans do the same for their respective country.

If you don't, ok. I find that odd, but you do you.
The point of the Olympics is to identify the best athletes in the world. As far as being so invested that I only root for U.S. team athletes, if that were the case then I might be one of the handful of people watching them compete. On the other hand, I might not, but, yeah, I don't give a shite if Mondo wins gold over a U.S. team athlete.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:43 pm to
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You also don't have to give a shite? It's sports and he's half Swedish. It'll be ok, not life or death stuff here.


I'm not sure I give a shite. I understand he's half Swedish. And, I understand it was personally beneficial to him to be on the Swedish team.

I also understand why those with no connection to LSU or his home town would root against him given he chose to play for another country. Hell, I'd do that absent the LSU attachment.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63090 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:45 pm to
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The point of the Olympics is to identify the best athletes in the world


Your point was absurd. They literally play the national anthem of the medalists. The Olympics and athletes are absolutely tightly connected with their country.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47680 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:36 pm to
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if you had your choice wouldn't you choose Sweden as well? If he brings home a medal (to Sweden) he would probably have an inside track on gaining citizen ship to the country, which who in their right mind wouldn't prefer over this shite hole.




He has dual citizenship by birth. His mom is Swedish and was a Swedish citizen when he was born.

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47680 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:42 pm to
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The point of the Olympics is to identify the best athletes in the world



Your point was absurd. They literally play the national anthem of the medalists. The Olympics and athletes are absolutely tightly connected with their country.



Most points about what the Olympics is about are absurd. The stated goal of the Olympics:

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The goal of the Olympic Movement is to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practiced without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.



Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47680 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:13 pm to
My recollection is that he originally started competing for Sweden in international track competition when he was much younger because USATF would not allow him to compete due to age restrictions (they don't really have those restrictions now, I think) and that Sweden would allow him to and so he is sticking with the group that originally allowed him to compete on the world stage.

My memory is pretty shoddy these days, so take that with a grain of salt.
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