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re: Do you prefer a big name that costs lots of $$$ or risk bringing in a young guy?

Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:39 am to
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18781 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:39 am to
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Younger guy, spend the money on NIL
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This. Bring in a young, hungry guy.
yep. agreed.

This is the way of things now.

OP's question is the wrong question IMHO...

The question should be will there be a drop off in talent if you choose a 'young guy' vs. a 'big name'?

Years ago this was debatable with the 'big name' assumed to win by an edge because of traditional recruiting.

But even then, that wasn't exactly true unless your name was Saban. It was an assumption.

Now, add on the magic portal and especially NIL you do not have to have a big name to make a talented roster.

In both cases you better have exceptional coordinators, with the OC's choice of system being favorable to QBs, and very good coaches, including S&C, that focus on getting players start-ready as fast as possible because if you don't they are in the magic portal.
Posted by Recoveringcajun
Banjo country
Member since Aug 2022
2483 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:45 am to
I never thought I’d see the Rant filled up with posters who have hard-ons for young men.

Yet here we are.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7145 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:45 am to
Sooner or later fans will realize the money you pay a coach means nothing. Just because you may pay 13 mil instead of 8 mil does not mean that 5 mil goes to nil or funding.
Posted by homemadeshine
Member since Dec 2024
377 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:48 am to
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Wow, I didn't he has been at Ole Miss for 6 seasons and has not won anything. He won't win NC there.


I agree he won't win a NC at Ole Miss, but averaging 3 losses a season over his entire career won't win a NC anywhere.

It's almost like he's the hot, new gimmick or toy that a lot of fans have fallen in love with, but the numbers just don't support long term success.

I can see Tiger Stadium erupting when he decides to go for it on fourth down on LSU's own 20 and doesn't make it and the opposing team scores on the very next play because of his bonehead move.

It would not be a pretty scene!
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7145 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:50 am to
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I agree he won't win a NC at Ole Miss, but averaging 3 losses a season over his entire career won't win a NC anywhere.


He has his team right there this year. A year where no team seems to have an advantage. To say he won’t win one at Ole Miss is just wishful thinking.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
24523 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 6:58 am to
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I know the hot name is Kiffin, but in 7 seasons as an SEC HC he has yet to win an SEC championship or even play in a championship game.
Irrelevant. What Kiffin has done in the NIL era (last 5 years) is win 50 games at Ole Miss. their best season in their entire history is a 10 win season before Kiffin got there and he’s averaged 10 wins a season during his time there.


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I say let's go grab a young coach like Sumrall, Brent Key, Clark Lea, Joey McGuire or Jeff Brohm.

Weird to bring up the topic of young up and coming coaches and not mention Dillingham at ASU who is a hot name on the list of our coaching candidates. That’s the direction we very well look if Kiffin doesn’t pan out
This post was edited on 11/19/25 at 7:01 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
18781 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:04 am to
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Sooner or later fans will realize the money you pay a coach means nothing. Just because you may pay 13 mil instead of 8 mil does not mean that 5 mil goes to nil or funding.
ehhhh, simultaneously true and not true.

All that pay for a coach over and above the state salary comes from booster money.

Now that they have given up all pretenses with NIL and the NCAA declaring they can't enforce the rules for NIL that is basically booster money too.

So both come from the same pot. It is a finite pool.

The people paying for 'advertising' and NIL money are the same people who are the boosters.
Posted by RedFishRuss
Pensacola
Member since Feb 2011
40 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 7:11 am to
Lane would be great. Would cost a sh#t ton. Catching lightning in a bottle with a young up & comer, a la Sabin, would be my choice. Drink, Dillingham, etc.
Posted by homemadeshine
Member since Dec 2024
377 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:31 am to
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Weird to bring up the topic of young up and coming coaches and not mention Dillingham at ASU who is a hot name on the list of our coaching candidates. That’s the direction we very well look if Kiffin doesn’t pan out


Living in Alabama, I didn't put Dillingham down because he was OC at Auburn for one year and they couldn't rid of him fast enough. I have a lot of friends that are Auburn fans and have season tickets and they don't want him anywhere near Auburn, even as a visiting coach.

As one of my buddies said, Dillingham is just another Tom Herman - a hot name that will eventually turn into a bust and cost a school a lot of money in a buyout to get rid of him.

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Irrelevant. What Kiffin has done in the NIL era (last 5 years) is win 50 games at Ole Miss. their best season in their entire history is a 10 win season before Kiffin got there and he’s averaged 10 wins a season during his time there.



Winning 10 games is great, but he's also averaging three conference losses over the past three seasons! In fact, CBK has more SEC conference wins than Kiffin during that same period and we see what happened to him.
Posted by rar
Member since Dec 2020
357 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:39 am to
Hire a coach that can last 25 years ... then go after the best coordinators in football at whatever level ... pay up for the expertise that the actual staff will yield and get off this circus parade of paying a head coach an outlandish amount of money for failure.
Posted by vince vega
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2014
820 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 9:57 am to
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LSU is in the SEC, which means that only a proven head coach who won at the Power 5 level should be hired...no risks are worth taking on unproven coordinators or even winning coaches from non-Power 5 schools.


the guy we just fired was the best guy we could have hired based on that criteria

there are no risk free hires
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51577 posts
Posted on 11/19/25 at 10:29 am to
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Worked out ok for Georgia hiring a coordinator

And when LSU hired Arnsparger.
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