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re: Do the umps make this call at Alex Box?

Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by VerbalKint
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Mickey Goldmill



Good Lord, you’re fricking stupid.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10613 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:48 pm to
That's a lot of "you gotta go back" kinda things. Only thing they didn't do to Oregon was take previous runs off the board.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8239 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:49 pm to
Did the field turf mess up the catcher’s anticipation on the bounce of the throw?

Looks like it bounced on the turf just before the dirt. I guess it’s still field turf. Lower resolution on mobile and making infield base paths look like grass fields’ infields are maker more difficult to tell for sure.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:55 pm to
I thought you couldn’t review on video replay umpire judgement calls. That’s a bang bang play and needed to be made in real time. Not slow mo.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22466 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:57 pm to
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he couldve contorted his body unnaturally and risked injuring himself or not touching the plate in order to avoid touching the player that was obstructing his path to home plate without the ball


Which we saw in the championship series in '23. Luckily it was the last game of the season and a rout at that point.

Let's just consider ourselves lucky that this didn't happen to LSU at the box. I know LSU fans are good people by and large but their are some idiots out there. I would hate for something to happen in a situation to besmirch our flawless reputation.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:59 pm to
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Of course not, but the catcher had to understand that if he doesn't catch the ball, he's now violating the rule which could lead to an obstruction call.


That’s incorrect. The rule says nothing about the catcher having to catch the ball.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:59 pm to
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Good Lord, you’re fricking stupid.


Maybe, but he’s correct here.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 12:59 pm to
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Making an attempt to catch a ball means just that, trying to catch the ball. He didn't. In fact he wasn't even on home plate while the attempt was being made. Stick to pee wee ball bro. Making an attempt to catch a ball doesn't mean "move up the baseline" to catch it.


The ball bounced over his glove while he was attempting to catch it. Right over his head. He was in the act of receiving the ball so the catcher was legally right to bet there. You can even see when he starts to catch it his left foot crosses the base ball. He was in correct position
with the ball in air. Kept living over base line as ball got closer. It def is not obstruction.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:01 pm to
So at what point does obstruction come back into play when the ball is a mile behind the catcher?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:02 pm to
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The C did NOT need to be clear out of the way. If he was simply standing at home plate INSTEAD of 3 feet in front of it then we wouldn’t be discussing anything.


He’s allowed to be 3 feet in front of home plate if he’s there to field the throw.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:04 pm to
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So at what point does obstruction come back into play when the ball is a mile behind the catcher?
Never apparently

You are allowed to block the plate at all times as long as someone eventually throws it to you at some point.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22852 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:06 pm to
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The ball bounced over his glove while he was attempting to catch it. Right over his head. He was in the act of receiving the ball so the catcher was legally right to bet there. You can even see when he starts to catch it his left foot crosses the base ball. He was in correct position with the ball in air. Kept living over base line as ball got closer. It def is not obstruction.


Disagree. The correct position would’ve been right at home plate instead of several feet in front of it. C was clearly attempting to block the plate and C was clearly to blame for the collision IMO. If C catches the ball AT home plate then there is no violent collision and runner would probably be out bc would have had a few split seconds more that would have allowed him to catch and tag the SLIDING runner.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38425 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:06 pm to
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Eh, its subjective. I think the catcher set up to recieve the ball in front of the plate thus blocking.


As LSU fans know from the Brady Neal play of a year ago
This post was edited on 5/31/25 at 1:08 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:07 pm to
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Never apparently You are allowed to block the plate at all times as long as someone eventually throws it to you at some point.


Nope. Never said that and neither does the rule. Obviously there is some subjectivity in this rule, but the ball has to be nearing the catcher for him to be making a legitimate attempt to field it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:08 pm to
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but the ball has to be nearing the
exactly. Do you know English? Nearing or fielding is speaking or present and future tense
Once the ball is past him it’s no longer nearing or receiving
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Disagree. The correct position would’ve been right at home plate instead of several feet in front of it. C was clearly attempting to block the plate and C was clearly to blame for the collision IMO. If C catches the ball AT home plate then there is no violent collision and runner would probably be out bc would have had a few split seconds more that would have allowed him to catch and tag the SLIDING runner.


There is no “correct position” according to the rule. The catcher has every right to be wherever he wants around home plate if he’s there while fielding the ball.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25996 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:12 pm to
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exactly. Do you know English? Nearing or fielding is speaking or present and future tense Once the ball is past him it’s no longer nearing or receiving


It’s a bang bang play. Once the ball is out of reach, the play is basically over already anyway. If it’s not obstruction at the attempt to field, it doesn’t magically turn into obstructing because he failed and the ball got away.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22852 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:12 pm to
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He’s allowed to be 3 feet in front of home plate if he’s there to field the throw.


Like I’ve said a bunch of times. The field the throw language implies the throw takes the catcher into the runner AND NOT the catcher chooses to shorten the distance on the throw forcing the runner to run around him. If that wasn’t the case they why even have an obstruction rule. Just have the catcher run up the line on a throw like that and run into the runner “attempting to field the throw”.

That collision was TOTALLY on the Catcher and he got bailed out.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:12 pm to
And if you decide to setup in front of the plate and miss the ball you are obstructing; the risk you take.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104735 posts
Posted on 5/31/25 at 1:14 pm to
The rule is 100% written for when a throw brings the catcher in front of the plate

Arguing otherwise and saying the rule is for a catcher setting up in front of the plate regardless of if the throw brought him there is intentionally being obtuse
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