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re: Do good true pocket passers not want to go to LSU or do we just not want them?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:10 pm to Lou Pai
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:10 pm to Lou Pai
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and he's been forced into a disproportionately high amount of 3rd and long scenarios in the last two games
Lazy narrative. He forced himself into at least three third and longs due to inaccurate passes at Arkansas.
He hit a ark player in the head on the first pass of the game. Might have been a TD.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:16 pm to LakeChuckTiger89
If you were a pocket passer, would you want to come to LSU knowing what kind of offense they run? For that matter, why would a good receiver want to come here?
It's not rocket science.
It's not rocket science.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:17 pm to Lou Pai
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forced into a disproportionately high amount of 3rd and long scenarios in the last two games.
welcome to complete quarterbacking aka LSU football post-2008. even 2013 how many times did mett have to zing one in there for landry or obj to make an incredible catch in traffic
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:18 pm to MBclass83
Because they are sure to go pro and get drafted high as they are taught NFL skills here. Are you even a LSU Fan?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:18 pm to LakeChuckTiger89
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who don't make mistakes
Flynn threw 11 ints in 2007
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:23 pm to TigerRagAndrew
What LSU qb's are playing in NFL and holding down the job?
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:24 pm to MBclass83
to be fair, there are only like 10 NFL QBs that are "holding down the job" 
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:26 pm to Salmon
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Do good true pocket passers not want to go to LSU or do we just not want them
well, I think harris is a pocket guy. We have two other committed. Franks and Dinkleman.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:31 pm to Lou Pai
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Our system itself has let him down, and he's been forced into a disproportionately high amount of 3rd and long scenarios in the last two games.
He just had his best day as far as numbers, made a few mistakes but they all do. Threw on first down a lot more. He's coming around.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:33 pm to S
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welcome to complete quarterbacking aka LSU football post-2008. even 2013 how many times did mett have to zing one in there for landry or obj to make an incredible catch in traffic
That's on him. Ole Miss game, times he had the underneath throw open, he would throw to Beckham in double coverage.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:36 pm to ATLTiger
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ppl really tend to romanticize about their attributes as QBs.
This cannot be overstated.
LSU almost lost to Bama in 2007 because of Flynn. Up 17-3, Flynn threw INTs on three straight drives.
He was fantastic against OSU, and that is what people remember.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 4:43 pm to LakeChuckTiger89
We need a winner and call plays like we believe he's a winner. Under Les we'll never know what we got because he calls offense to not lose
Posted on 11/20/15 at 5:08 pm to dgnx6
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That's on him. Ole Miss game, times he had the underneath throw open, he would throw to Beckham in double coverage.
He could've thrown it underneath all game or we could've just handed it to Hill. Or Chavis could've fielded a competent defense that year that didn't fold at the end of the game.
Honestly, there were points in 2013 where we passed too often, or in the case of Ole Miss, Mett didn't go for the safe play. 2014, we couldn't pass at all. This year, I don't hate the play calls as much as I do the formations. Prior to the Bama game, our scoring offense looked great and people were talking about how Harris was hitting his stride at the right time.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 5:37 pm to dos crystal
One question I have is why didn't LSU go out and get a transfer QB this offseason who might have been able to step in and help right away, sort of like Ole Miss did with Chad Kelly? Last season, we conclusively established that Jennings can't play and that Harris has potential but is very green. I think Harris has been serviceable this year, and probably hasn't deserved to get pulled, but if he had gone down with an injury, then we're left with Jennings? That did not seem like a good plan.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 6:09 pm to LakeChuckTiger89
Most HS's run spread formations these days. Most of the QB's LSU recruits are throwing A-LOT in HS, and they're successful with 3-4 WR sets out of the shotgun with quick snaps.
LSU runs just about the most opposite offense you can run to the offense they come from. That's why the QB's always take so long to get going IF they get going.
LSU runs just about the most opposite offense you can run to the offense they come from. That's why the QB's always take so long to get going IF they get going.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 7:25 pm to monsterballads
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Flynn threw 11 ints in 2007
at least 3 of which hit LaFell in the hands first.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:27 pm to CptBengal
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Never mention good ole Less...
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Never mention good ole Less...
Sonofabitch, I never thought about it, but you're right. No one has blamed Les yet.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:49 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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This has been Miles' QB problem all along. He's signing running qbs and trying to put them in pro style offenses
Harris is a pro style QB, Miles/Cam just need to put them in a true modern pro style offense, which is not the offense we run. NOt sure if Cam even knows how to coach a true modern pro style offense.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:51 pm to LakeChuckTiger89
LOL
they haven't exactly worked out well here lately.. see the transfers. and they didn't work out well elsewhere either.. LSU recruits pocket passers. Franks is still a pocket passer, regardless how he is labeled by certain places.
they haven't exactly worked out well here lately.. see the transfers. and they didn't work out well elsewhere either.. LSU recruits pocket passers. Franks is still a pocket passer, regardless how he is labeled by certain places.
Posted on 11/20/15 at 9:55 pm to MBclass83
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If you were a pocket passer, would you want to come to LSU knowing what kind of offense they run? For that matter, why would a good receiver want to come here?
exactly, we still manage to pull in some pretty highly rated QB's and recievers dispite the offense we run. Imagine what we could recruit if we ran a more modern pro style offense that threw the ball more often and were a more relevant program.
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