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Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:46 am to theunknownknight
Also let's totally ignore BAMA going for 200 yards through the air compared to our 91. We won, that is enough.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:51 am to bpope
Moral victory...butthurt
At the start of overtime the score became 0-0. New ballgame. We got it once, they got it once. They couldn't do shite. LSU moved the ball down their throat and won the game.
They had their rematch (it's called overtime) and got their arse kicked on their home field.
At the start of overtime the score became 0-0. New ballgame. We got it once, they got it once. They couldn't do shite. LSU moved the ball down their throat and won the game.
They had their rematch (it's called overtime) and got their arse kicked on their home field.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:51 am to TigerWoody
quote:Maybe, but that doesn't make him stupid, just unlucky.
Saban has shown time and again, he is a terrible gambler. Les has shown time and again, he is a very good gambler. Queue Kenny Rogers.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:53 am to theunknownknight
yeah let's also ignore them only gaining 114 TOTAL 2nd half yards. Oh yeah totally outplayed us when the game was on the line.
And half of those FG attempts you argue should have been punts if their coach didn't frick up.
And half of those FG attempts you argue should have been punts if their coach didn't frick up.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:53 am to Tiger_n_ATL
I'd say Saban coached a pretty dumb game.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:54 am to omegaman66
quote:He tried a different kicker and that failed to. So it wasn't exactly like repeating the same mistake over and over. But technically you are correct, he should have played field position.
If you can only kick the ball 46 yards and your stupid coach repeatedly ask you to try one that long or longer then that is stupid. Just throwing away field position.
Just think if that kicker had even just 'lucked up' and made ONE of those field goals, it would have been a 9-6 win in regulation by Bama, so in retrospect it wasn't that 'stupid' but it was a gamble.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:54 am to theunknownknight
quote:
BAMA might have the advantage bc the LSU INT might have prevented a BAMA touchdown.
I'm with the "My God, you're really fricking stupid crowd." Bama has the advantage because Reid made a great play...you know, outplayed his opponent?
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:55 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
Maybe, but that doesn't make him stupid, just unlucky.
Pretty interesting contrast with your normal take on Miles when one of his calculated risks goes south.
I agree that the long FG in the first half was a calculated risk. And it wasn't "stupid." It was, however, a poor choice, and I thought so at the time. I said to my wife, "Miles wouldn't try the FG here. He'd punt it to the 3 yard line. Even if 'Bama makes it, it might be better for us than getting pinned."
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Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:55 am to LSUzealot
quote:
yeah let's also ignore them only gaining 114 TOTAL 2nd half yards. Oh yeah totally outplayed us when the game was on the line.
Are you mentally challenged or do you simply like arguing with yourself? That's exactly what I've been saying. We played better when it counted.
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Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:56 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:A stupid gambler is one who makes stupid bets/decisions. I say Nick made some stupid gambling decisions. He knew the weakness of his FG kickers and went back to them, how many times? At what length were those attempts? I say those decisions were pretty stupid.
Maybe, but that doesn't make him stupid, just unlucky.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:57 am to Neauxla
quote:Love how you ignore the bottom line: 4 of Alabama's 5 FG attempts were aided by LSU mistakes and personal foul calls which granted crucial yardage to Alabama and put them in position to kick FGs to begin with - which is the only argument you have to support your contention that Alabama outplayed LSU.
I love the purple and gold spin on the facts
Without the PF calls alone (30 yards), Alabama is down to 3 FG attempts at best. That's key yardage that Alabama absolutely DID NOT pick up, PERIOD!
You can argue that Alabama, as a result of what happened (the PF calls), had more opportunities to score, but there is no way to use any FACT to suggest Alabama OUTPLAYED LSU.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:57 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
Just think if that kicker had even just 'lucked up' and made ONE of those field goals, it would have been a 9-6 win in regulation by Bama, so in retrospect it wasn't that 'stupid' but it was a gamble.
This is flawed analysis, because it assumes that everything would have proceeded exactly the same from that point on, despite the difference in score. If he makes, we get a kickoff to return. Maybe we take it to the house. Maybe we take it to midfield, giving us a shot at another FG, or better. I'm sure you understand.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:57 am to nycajun
quote:Exactly. However, when he repeated this same error in judgment, not once, not twice.....
I agree that the long FG in the first half was a calculated risk. And it wasn't "stupid." It was, however, a poor choice, and I thought so at the time.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 9:58 am to nycajun
quote:
This is flawed analysis, because it assumes that everything would have proceeded exactly the same from that point on, despite the difference in score
Uh...you might want to call this the Rant Manuever.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:00 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
it would have been a 9-6 win in regulation by Bama,
Hmmmmm... interesting. So you don't think that LSU goes for the touchdown instead of the field goal while being inside of the 5 twice if Bama had made an extra field goal. Hmmmmm... I don't see that happening. Final score probably 10-9 LSU according to my "what if" crystal ball.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:00 am to Tiger_n_ATL
quote:
It's not stupid if he makes it. He would have been a hero then. Hindsight makes it look like a stupid decision but Saban probably felt with our ferocious defense this would be his only opportunity to try to get points, and he went for it. It's a gamble that didn't pay off.
It's not a gamble if you know the kicker can't make it. It's stupid coaching. Like I said once before, if you're out of range, you're out of range. Kicking it from three yards out of the kicker's range is no different than kicking it fifty yards. Neither one will go, though one will look slightly less stupid.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:02 am to theunknownknight
To the O.P..
Yes in the 1st half.
No in the second.
In overtime...bama never even showed up.
Hope that warms the hearts of gumps everywhere.
Yes in the 1st half.
No in the second.
In overtime...bama never even showed up.
Hope that warms the hearts of gumps everywhere.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:02 am to bpope
This says a lot! In the first 60 min of the game:
LSU had 19- and 25-yard field goals by Alleman.
Bama had a 34-yard field goal by Jeremy Shelley and a 46 yarder by Foster with misses from longer distances.
LSU had 19- and 25-yard field goals by Alleman.
Bama had a 34-yard field goal by Jeremy Shelley and a 46 yarder by Foster with misses from longer distances.
Posted on 11/10/11 at 10:04 am to bpope
It's funny! I must have missed the meeting where the SEC decisded that career long fg attempts were gimme points. You can't kick 50 yard fg into the wind and then when you miss them say," we left points on the field".
We didn't get outplayed. A football game consists of 3 phases. On defense LSU prevailed. On special teams LSU prevailed. On offense we scored enough. So how de we get outplayed
We didn't get outplayed. A football game consists of 3 phases. On defense LSU prevailed. On special teams LSU prevailed. On offense we scored enough. So how de we get outplayed
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