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re: Depth in the trenches this year
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:15 pm to Ryan3232
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:15 pm to Ryan3232
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Edit: If you forgot, we gave up 200+ yards on the ground and suffered with time of possesion because it. Offensive coaching aside, you cant tell me that us rotating 4 guys at 3 spots wasnt an issue. And if you think it was coaching, go ahead and say Aranda needs to go. You are stupid.
I love how you gloss over the offensive shite storm that O created so effortlessly. Defense didn’t lose us that game.
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Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:17 pm to OKTGR580
I think the D-Line allows Arnada to be increasingly more aggressive on defense. Forcing turnovers and getting more big plays to play a shortened field will be monumental. Many games, we have seen his defense play lights out, but the lack of big play production obviously cannot be understated.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:25 pm to lsu2006
quote:we had almost 100 more yards then them on offense and they had almost 10 more minutes time of possesion. We had 4 turnovers. 2 being fumbles. Now you tell me how its the offensive coaches fault we fumbled twice, yet out defense couldnt get them off the field.
I love how you gloss over the offensive shite storm that O created so effortlessly. Defense didn’t lose us that game.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:27 pm to lsu2006
Football is a team sport so yes the defense had everything to do with that loss. As did the offense and ST. LSU had holes everywhere and you can blame some of it on O and some of it on the previous staff.
We had players out for that Troy game while already being a very depleted team. After the Troy game is when our leaders on the team emerged. Devin White and the rest finally stepped up and said ok this is enough and we went on to have a pretty good ending to the season even being depleted on the LOS.
For those saying that we didn't have depth issues on the OL before the spring are kidding themselves. The players that left, left bc they were being outplayed by the younger OLman period. They knew it and so they left. All O has done in the offseason is shore up every weakness we've had.
Now we look ok on the LOS and ST looks like it should be much more consistent as well. He brought in a decent QB to run this offense and its Creggs job to shore up this OL with the talent that was brought in. GT
We had players out for that Troy game while already being a very depleted team. After the Troy game is when our leaders on the team emerged. Devin White and the rest finally stepped up and said ok this is enough and we went on to have a pretty good ending to the season even being depleted on the LOS.
For those saying that we didn't have depth issues on the OL before the spring are kidding themselves. The players that left, left bc they were being outplayed by the younger OLman period. They knew it and so they left. All O has done in the offseason is shore up every weakness we've had.
Now we look ok on the LOS and ST looks like it should be much more consistent as well. He brought in a decent QB to run this offense and its Creggs job to shore up this OL with the talent that was brought in. GT
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:29 pm to BayouBengal99
quote:He has done a solid job at getting guys in the trenches. Les just gave up recruiting bigs in his last 2 years it seems like.
All O has done in the offseason is shore up every weakness we've had.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:45 pm to BayouBengal99
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We had players out for that Troy game while already being a very depleted team.
I’ve never disputed that we had players out or didn’t have depth issues. Just that it is valid excuse for losing to Troy.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:00 pm to BayouBengal99
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The players that left, left bc they were being outplayed by the younger OLman period. They knew it and so they left.
Well that’s just false and all you have to do is look at the timing of announcements. Even still, they were the “depth” that was allegedly non existent when Orgeron was hired.
It would be a lot easier for everyone to be objective if people on both sides didn’t just completely make up shite. And it absolutely happens on both sides of the argument.
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All O has done in the offseason is shore up every weakness we've had.
Great. We have no weaknesses and therefore there is no legitimate reason to not win the West, the SEC, and be in the playoffs. I’ll bookmark this to get your assessment of how this team with no weaknesses fared this season.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:29 pm to BayouBengal99
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For those saying that we didn't have depth issues on the OL before the spring are kidding themselves. The players that left, left bc they were being outplayed by the younger OLman period.
Yeah like starting guard Maea Teuhema
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:32 pm to OKTGR580
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How do y’all feel about our chances this season knowing we finally have some depth on both sides of the line?
I feel like Ed better fking produce results this year (10-2 or better), because he’s got no excuses.
Posted on 6/9/18 at 8:20 am to OKTGR580
We didn't Get dominated by Troy, and BTW that Troy team went 11-1 on the year. I know, I know all the muh Troy bull shite by every body, but Troy was a very good football team AND LSU was not properly prepared. It’s history, constantly mulling over that shite again and again is really getting old boys.
This post was edited on 6/9/18 at 8:21 am
Posted on 6/9/18 at 10:13 am to OKTGR580
Someone needs to step up at center! Cush is not the answer
Posted on 6/9/18 at 11:00 am to MOT
quote:lsu had depth until they all left when O took over. It happens with coaching changes
feel like you never really paid any attention to the depth/numbers on the line, nor how they got there or the timing involved with it, until you heard that narrative spun up on 9/16/17.
Posted on 6/9/18 at 11:13 am to justice
Teauma going no matter who was the coach would have been. Had disciplinary and academic issues. The OT from John Curtis just wasn't College caliber. Chiki Oyo was a project. None of those guys would have panned out. Dodd was the only transfer that wasn't taking up space
Posted on 6/9/18 at 11:14 am to justice
Teauma going no matter who was the coach would have been. Had disciplinary and academic issues. The OT from John Curtis just wasn't College caliber. Chiki Oyo was a project. None of those guys would have panned out. Dodd was the only transfer that wasn't just taking up space and wasting scholarships
Posted on 6/9/18 at 11:16 am to boxcar willie
OL depth was an issue with or without miles
Posted on 6/9/18 at 11:19 am to OKTGR580
Center and right tackle are big question marks on the O line. Clapp and Weathersby should have stayed.
Posted on 6/9/18 at 11:41 am to OKTGR580
quote:As it stands today (or as of start of summer), we have no depth at the tackles. Conversely, we have very good depth on the interior. The interior is actually quite impressive. Other teams... P5 teams... are jealous. Word of caution: an interior line does not make a offensive line. Gotta get that tackle position sorted. Looking like Traore MIGHT get to Dan Skipper levels if he can improve the footwork; the rant cliche of "never be ready in time" applies for real here. Up to Deculus, with maybe some doses of Savage. Hope they are putting in extra time with Hines. It's possible we make a massive shuffle for the OTs IF Hines can can move in as IL depth. Possibly use someone who has far from prototypical frame (i.e. 6'3" height) at OT. Cregg has to do something... move people around or make some magic with others.
I’m still in wait and see mode with the OL. However, the DL gets me very excited.
Does Brumfield become our "Mr. 5"... meaning spends time at C, G, and OT.? We may have to.
We're going to have to convert an OG, as it stands now, today. Things might change. Savage might suprise, Traore learns to handle his frame, Deculus comes out of injury looking like a junior, etc. I'm starting to wish they had put Rosenthal on the OL now. Might not be immediate help, but would likely put us in a better position. He handles his 6'7" (looking more like 8") better than Traore does.
quote:I think you are spot on. A quality (and NOT using a Lesism) rotation on the DL is required. And IMO, we have it. A little inexperienced, but not overly so. Big, strong, twitchy, well instructed... we have in abundance over and above a starting 3. Best DL we've had in a while.
’ve said this for years, depth on the line especially the D line is crucial for success. Especially in the SEC. You can get by with mediocre QB play if you have a good O line too though. Call me crazy I don’t think this season will be as bad as everyone thinks
Backed up by what I think will quickly become the best SEC LB squad, top-3 in the nation, by midway in the season.
If we can get special teams back to Les-levels, or pre-2013 Les-levels, to help with field position we may see statistical numbers similar to 2011. On the defense anyway.
This post was edited on 6/9/18 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/9/18 at 12:22 pm to I20goon
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As it stands today (or as of start of summer), we have no depth at the tackles.
As of today we have 5 scholly OT's: Saadiq Charles, Adrian Magee, Badara Troare, Auston Deculus, and Jakori Savage. Depth isn't that big of an issue but I can see why you are concerned. I don't see any one of those guys winding up as wastes of schollys talent wise like Willie Allen and Okeke.
That's 5 that should be able to play not just practice bodies like so much of our OL depth has been in the past.
Then we have a lot of good talent at Guard as well, Deeper and more proven than at Tackle.
Cushenberry could be a good center but we need some depth there for sure as Cole Smith is going to need a year or two. Brumfield or Lewis hopefully are getting reps there.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 10:05 pm to OKTGR580
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finally have some depth on both sides of the line
I'm not sure where you get your info. The OL is very thin.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 10:14 pm to moneyg
HOW SO
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