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re: Defensive stats when we flipped the switch

Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:51 am to
Posted by mikedatyger
Orlandeaux, FL
Member since Jun 2005
4011 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:51 am to
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But the way we are doing it is winning games comfortably

The Florida game was anything but comfortable.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58122 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:52 am to
It’s a thin line on just saying we have to blitz. UF burned us twice on third and long because we blitzed and they had a screen or something ready.

I do agree that we have to try some different things to run stunts or use some different alignments or something
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7135 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:55 am to
We got stuffed on several stunts.

Blitzes? Dunno. Looks like we were trying to make the backup QB make play after play. Which he did for the most part of three quarters. Mullins did a terrific job of scheming and match-up, but the running game was shut down and his QB stop being perfect.

Can’t blitz every down. This is not a computer game. Players get tired. You have to marshall their energy for when you really need it.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10143 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 10:57 am to
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Aranda just needs to dial up pressure with stunts and blitzes.


I agree here. Like Doering said yesterday, I'd rather give up a touchdown being aggressive as opposed to sitting back having them drive down our throats and eating clock.

Either way, Aranda has feel confident that even if the D gives up a big one, the Offense has his back now.

Set them boys loose!!!
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1591 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:02 am to
Florida walked right down with the opening 2nd half kickoff and took the lead. In the 4th Quarter with LSU up 7 and Fla on its on 6 yard line drove all the way to the red zone and had a 3rd and 6 inches when Trask threw the interception to Stingley. Great play by Stingley a big time one at that, but thats a play Mullen wishes he had back.

They also walked right back down in the red zone the next possession as well.

LSu was the tougher and better team and deserved to win but all this 2nd half love for the defense is a bit overrated imo. They did hold Fla to 7 points and thats
all that matters with this offense. So theres plenty to like especially the young Brooks. He can do it all.
The Tigers were really trying to get a sack like I cant remember. They were dialed in big time. It was fun to watch.

Must give Florida's young OL some credit, they fought their asses off and stayed together and rarely made a mental mistake against some bad boys and a hostile environment.

But How Bout Dem Tigers. Only 4 3rd downs and 11 yards per play and 42 points against that defense is mind boggling good.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:05 am to
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Miles was castigates for a bad offense. Why isn’t O treated the same for the terrible defense?


LSU scored 21 unanswered points after Aranda saw Mullens’ 2nd half adjustments and made his own.

That’s how football actually works, and it’s how you win football games when you have an elite offense.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
5977 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:18 am to
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Why isn’t O treated the same for the terrible defense?


Ain't nothing terrible about this defense.

This defense, by most measures, is still top 30 in the nation. And if you account for the time of possession and number of possession disparities, its better than that.

Yes, its had some issues. No its not as good as previous seasons. But its perfectly serviceable.

People forget that Mullen is a darn good offensive coach. He knew what and how he wanted to attack us.

They were able to drive, but were also very lucky to score two of those touchdowns.
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1591 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:21 am to
Thats true. But Mullen came out of the half with the best adjustments and walked right down the field and just put 21 unanswered on the Tigers. Now thats how you make adjustments with a young QB on the road in the first half.

And after the LSU D adjusted FINALLY and got the offense off the field a cpl of times in the 3rd quarter. Which was mostly Divinity and Brooks attacking the QB. Mullen readjusted in the 4th quarter. He wasnt prepared for Brooks thats for sure at first.
Those 2 screen calls were perfect and LSU held on with a tired defense and made a big time play in the end zone.
Then the great Joe Burrow buried the hatchet with the last of the 21 unanswered points. Hes a cold blooded assassin. If you give him a chance to bury you or beat you late, hes going to take you up on it. Hes the best player in the country, I dont care what anyone says.

I like Aranda and believe this entire defense will play on Sundays but Stingley saved that a@@@.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 11:38 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:29 am to
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Thats true. But Mullen came out of the half with the best adjustments and walked right down the field and just put 21 unanswered on the Tigers. Now thats how you make adjustments with a young QB on the road in the first half.


At no point in the game did UF put up 21 unanswered points.

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And after the LSU D adjusted FINALLY and got the defense off the field a cpl of times. Mullen readjusted in the 4th quarter and LSU held on with a tired defense and made a big time play in the end zone.


They scored 0 points in the 4th quarter.

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I like Aranda and believe this entire defense will play on Sundays but Stingley saved that a@@@.


So a defensive player makes a defensive play and it’s saving Aranda’s arse?

I guess Burrow has been saving Ensminger and Brady’s asses all season then.
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1591 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:33 am to
We can agree to disagree. I thought it was 21-7 but youre right it was 14-14.

But kinda yes, I think this game was won by the offense and LSU wouldve won this game with a much lesser DC than Aranda and with lesser defensive players, minus Stingley that is.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22283 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:35 am to
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With 7 mins and 12 second left in 3rd quarter LSU defense held Florida to 1.2 yards per rush attempt from then on.

17 yard on 14 runs.

And a 42.6 completion percentage.

0 points!!!
Therefore, we will never see it again.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:37 am to
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We can agree to disagree.


It’s funny. Every time I counter some of the people bitching about the defense with actual facts I get something along these lines.

I guess I should just stop trying to show all of you that the sky screaming is ignorant.
Posted by yimbeaux
Texas
Member since Nov 2014
1856 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:40 am to
by and large, I'd say we need to calm down about the defense. we're just starting to get healthy and as such we're just starting to figure out which combination of players works the best together.... I expect a much better performance next week due to having some continuity and an opponent struggling on offense.
Posted by Im4LSUnTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Jul 2015
799 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:42 am to
Wish we would game plan with a bias toward Our strength...man to man QBs, pressure DL with more dialed up 5th man blitz from various sources.
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1591 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 11:43 am to
Dude I like the defense. Its a pretty big statement saying all will play on Sunday and then not like them? WTF

I like Aranda as well. But hell any DC was going to make some adjustments. And attacking the QB wouldve been my Mom's guess.


I give Fla's offense the world of credit, how they stayed in this game was amazing. 2 different times, Burrow had his foot on their necks. We wont talk about who took it off, right?
Im just stating that Aranda didnt just flip a switch and LSu's defense began to dominate. Thats BS. They did hold them to 7 2nd half points and that is all that matters, but alot shite happened and it wasnt just a flip of a switch that kept them to 7 points.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 12:33 pm
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11098 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:14 pm to
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Aranda just needs to dial up pressure with stunts and blitzes.



This.... Biggest difference in that time span IMO.
Posted by TigerChief10
Member since Dec 2012
10858 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Can’t blitz every down. This is not a computer game. Players get tired. You have to marshall their energy for when you really need it.

No one has said blitz every play. You cant just keep rushing 3 or 4 every damn play on 3rd and 10 though and let them just stand there for 10 seconds til someone gets open.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:27 pm to
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Im just stating that Aranda didnt just flip a switch and LSu's defense began to dominate. Thats BS. They did hold them to 7 2nd half points and that is all that matters, but alot shite happened and it wasnt just a flip of a switch that kept them to 7 points.


They gave up 4 straight scoring drives up through the first drive in the 2nd half, and then UF went punt, punt, INT, TOD.

If that's not flipping a switch, I don't know what is.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43811 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:28 pm to
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No one has said blitz every play. You cant just keep rushing 3 or 4 every damn play on 3rd and 10 though and let them just stand there for 10 seconds til someone gets open.


The two long 3rd down conversions in the 2nd half that people are complaining about....

Yeah, LSU brought pressure on both and got burned.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28336 posts
Posted on 10/15/19 at 12:31 pm to
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LSu was the tougher and better team and deserved to win but all this 2nd half love for the defense is a bit overrated imo.


I agree. LSU certainly made some big plays when the had to in order to keep UF off the board (which is ultimately the main goal), buth they didn't exactly suffocate UF outside of 2 drives. And Mullen seems to have made some very questionable decisions in the 2nd half. Trask was excellent on 3rd down and having a good game overall. Yet, in the series after the Brooks sack and after LSU had gone up by 7, Mullen went strictly with Emory Jones at QB for that drive. It resulted in 3 and out.

With Trask back in UF drove from the UF 8 to the LSU 16. Then Mullen decided to go play action on 3rd and 1. Trask made a horrible throw that was intercepted by Stingley. The next time UF got the ball they took it all the way down to the LSU 10 (before what should have been the game sealing INT)

LSU made some big plays in the second half, but it was in more of a bend but don't break fashion than a dominant defense performance.
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