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Defending a mobile QB question
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:41 pm
What we did did to Johnny Football and Lamar Jackson back in the day was a thing of beauty! My questions is this, would those same defensive game plans work today or has the game changed too much and it would be out dated?
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:43 pm to WHS
It would work, no reason it wouldn’t.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:45 pm to WHS
How Aranda shut down Lamar Jackson was elite
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:50 pm to saturncube21
used different approaches on each of those.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:54 pm to Madking
quote:Execution and personel could be a reason
It would work, no reason it wouldn’t.
Our defensive backfield vs manziel consisted of Eric Reid, Tharold Simon, Jalen Mills, Craig Loston, Ronald Martin, Jalen Collins, and Tre'Davious White Vs Jackson our backfield had Jamal Adams and Tre'Davious White
We also had linebackers like Kevin Minter, kwon alexander, deion jones, arden key, devin white, tashwan bower, duke riley when the qb's were roaming the field
This defense does not have nearly the depth of star power that those teams had. You are talking about some of the most star packed defenses LSU has had, NIL and the portal won't allow it. Hell Mathieu would've been counted in that number too had he not been kicked off right before
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 9/22/26 at 1:55 pm to WHS
Can't just do 1 or 2 things anymore offenses are too good. But I trust Blake to put together a plan that the players can execute.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:03 pm to ThePoo
Have you seen any of our corners get beat deep this year? You don’t think Dottery, Weeks and Benefield are All-SEC caliber talents?
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:06 pm to Madking
you do understand I said the word "depth" right?
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:07 pm to ThePoo
Yes, you named players over a 4 year span. Can you answer my questions?
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:09 pm to WHS
I remember after the aTm game Chavis said something along the lines of:
I just looked at the downfield passing chart and his completion percentage was in the 30s% when rolling out to his left... so we made him roll out to his left.
I just looked at the downfield passing chart and his completion percentage was in the 30s% when rolling out to his left... so we made him roll out to his left.
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:10 pm to WHS
Whatever Baker wants to do, don’t do that.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:15 pm to Madking
quote:why are you lying
Yes, you named players over a 4 year span
quote:Sure, Bennefield did not have a very good game vs Ole miss
Can you answer my questions
The lack of depth shows when a guy like Spears goes down and immediately ole miss attacks it successfully. How much depth do you think we have when a guy like Jimcoily has to come in?
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:18 pm to ThePoo
quote:
Our defensive backfield vs manziel consisted of Eric Reid, Tharold Simon, Jalen Mills, Craig Loston, Ronald Martin, Jalen Collins, and Tre'Davious White Vs Jackson our backfield had Jamal Adams and Tre'Davious White
We also had linebackers like Kevin Minter, kwon alexander, deion jones, arden key, devin white, tashwan bower, duke riley when the qb's were roaming the field
In 2013, we were effective shutting down Johnny Manziel but several of the players you've listed had already moved on or hadn't arrived yet. Reid, Simon, Minter left after '12. Jamal didn't get on campus until 2014 and Devin until '16.
LSU-A&M Box Score 2013
IMO, it's fair to give Chief some credit. Having had to deal with Spurrier's Fun-n-Gun and Tebow's spread while at UTenn, he learned to think unconventionally. Oversimplifying, but his thing was putting speed all over the field on D.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:23 pm to ThePoo
quote:
why are you lying
I’m not, you naked players from 2011 to 2014. Debo did not play in 2012 yet you included him with Minter who did. Where’s the lie?
quote:
Bennefield did not have a very good game vs Ole miss
That doesn’t follow my question in the slightest.
You seem to harping on something that at best can be argued by proportion and not validity. It’s illogical, for example you play another way and your defense stays on the field all night, how did you limit the depth issue?
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:24 pm to ThePoo
Man, there were some studs on that defense!
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:27 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:yes some of those players only faced him in '12, but Pretty sure you had white, loston and mills in the defensive backfield that season, kwon alexander was a backup LB on that team im pretty sure
In 2013, we were effective shutting down Johnny Manziel but several of the players you've listed had already moved on or hadn't arrived yet. Reid, Simon, Minter left after '12.
quote:we played lamar jackson in 2016, pretty sure white may have even sacked lamar
Jamal didn't get on campus until 2014 and Devin until '16.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:31 pm to Madking
quote:you said i named 4 players in 4 years, pretty simple to spot
Where’s the lie?
quote:your question named 3 players in a response to a post about defensive depth, my argument is about depth, your question has no relation to it.
You seem to harping on something that at best can be argued by proportion and not validity. It’s illogical, for example you play another way and your defense stays on the field all night, how did you limit the depth issue?
I for the life of me can't figure out why you would take offense to the fact that I stated those defenses had more depth. Not that you have argued against that actual argument yet
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:31 pm to ThePoo
I take it the gist of your reply was that we were effective vs Manziel and Lamar because we had superior talent. I think that was true in '12 and '16 but not so much in '13 and yet it did too.
The team that shutdown Manziel in '13 was pretty pedestrian talent wise. Out two starting LBs were Lamin Barrow and D. J. Welter vs Aggie.
The team that shutdown Manziel in '13 was pretty pedestrian talent wise. Out two starting LBs were Lamin Barrow and D. J. Welter vs Aggie.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:33 pm to ThePoo
I’m not taking offense and you did name players over a 4 year span who never played together.
Posted on 9/22/26 at 2:36 pm to AlwysATgr
Barrow was pretty solid, think he led the team in tackles
My argument is moreso that this defense is forced to walk on thin ice, one card falling could lead to the whole house coming down, not that that was not the case back then but i think even the '13 year the depth of our defense was less tenuous. That goes especially in an erawhere hurry up no huddle is more prevelant. Would love to compare the amount of rotation fgoing on with our current D vs defenses back then
I do feel like he switched almost the entire line out at one point in the game
My argument is moreso that this defense is forced to walk on thin ice, one card falling could lead to the whole house coming down, not that that was not the case back then but i think even the '13 year the depth of our defense was less tenuous. That goes especially in an erawhere hurry up no huddle is more prevelant. Would love to compare the amount of rotation fgoing on with our current D vs defenses back then
I do feel like he switched almost the entire line out at one point in the game
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 2:40 pm
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