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re: Dean Will be Next Coach at UNO
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:55 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:55 pm to thunderbird1100
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Dean is what 26 or 27? No way he becomes a head coach at a DI school.
He'll be 28 at the start of next season.
Riser was 29 when he got the job.
It's UNO. It's not like we are talking about a serious program. His youth could interject some life into that program.
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:58 pm to Lester Earl
I'm not sure what their options are outside of him. But in terms of where he's at as a coach, he's not ready IMO.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:59 pm to ell_13
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But in terms of where he's at as a coach, he's not ready IMO.
Is that just a guess or are there some concrete reasons?
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:03 pm to ell_13
How do you know this?
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:05 pm to bearhc
Would be a little surprised, someone like will davis has more experience.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:08 pm to Lester Earl
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Riser was 29 when he got the job
Riser is almost 4 years older than Dean and Dean would be 27 when he would "get the job". Dean JUST turned 27 this past Feb. Riser also spent 7 years as an assistant coach before he became HC, quite a bit different than 2 years experience and being 2 years younger.
Riser was an assistant coach at SELA for 6 years before becoming interim HC then HC.
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:08 pm to Lester Earl
I can give a few cliches about experience but it really has to do with getting a little better at handling players that are relatively close to you in age who he's known for a couple years already. And I have my doubts that he can make the transition from assistant to head coach at the same place where most of the players will expect him to interact with them the same way. There's also the administrative side which he'll likely need some help with which may not be readily available at a place like UNO.
My point, I suppose, does come down to experience. But if he gets it, he'll learn quicker than he ever could as an assistant at most other places. I'll be happy for him and I'll hope he does well, of course.
My point, I suppose, does come down to experience. But if he gets it, he'll learn quicker than he ever could as an assistant at most other places. I'll be happy for him and I'll hope he does well, of course.
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:09 pm to josh336
There are actually a lot of pretty decent coaches in the SLC right now. Riser will be moving up soon probably (no pun intended, but I'm sure they will be prevalent if/when he does take a bigger job). Lane Burroughs will be another in the long line of NW St coaches that move on to bigger programs. Justin Hill did pretty decent in year one at McNeese, not sure about this year. Seth Thibodeaux has managed to make Nicholls respectable. Matt Deggs was a highly thought of assistant at all of his stops, not sure how he did this year though.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:11 pm to ProjectP2294
Andy Cannizaro did surprisingly well this year considering his experience or lack thereof. We'll see if it was the players or him.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:12 pm to thunderbird1100
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Riser was an assistant coach at SELA for 6 years before becoming interim HC then HC.
and Dean was playing minor league baseball.
SELA is on another level compared to UNO. Consider how they hired Maestri. While it would be a great starter job for Dean, that program does have some problems.
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Riser is almost 4 years older than Dean
well yea, now he is.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:13 pm to Moustache
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Andy Cannizaro did surprisingly well this year considering his experience or lack thereof. We'll see if it was the players or him.
I guess that does remain to be seen, but the big thing with him is that he was able to build a lot of relationships as a scout and that transfers naturally to being an assistant coach out on the road recruiting.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:13 pm to Lester Earl
quote:quote:well yea, now he is.
Riser is almost 4 years older than Dean
He kinda always is.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:14 pm to Moustache
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Andy Cannizaro did surprisingly well this year considering his experience or lack thereof. We'll see if it was the players or him.
and i wasnt ragging on Andy earlier. I loved the hire then, and love it now. He could become a HC within the next year or 2, and he doesn't have a ton of coaching experience.
Yes, he's a good bit older then Dean, so naturally has been around the game longer. But as far as college baseball coaching experience, Dean has been at it a little longer.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:14 pm to ProjectP2294
to be honest, I think that is why Maestri took the head coaching job to begin with...
UNO will never have quality coaching candidates knocking down it's door...
Might as well start with somebody like Dean
UNO will never have quality coaching candidates knocking down it's door...
Might as well start with somebody like Dean
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:14 pm to Lester Earl
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While it would be a great starter job for Dean, that program does have some problems.
understatement of the year
you can't recruit when nobody knows if the university will exist in 5 years...
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:17 pm to gaetti15
UNO used to be a pretty darn good program. It was on it's way down as Tulane was coming up and then Katrina was the dagger.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:21 pm to ell_13
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UNO used to be a pretty darn good program. It was on it's way down as Tulane was coming up and then Katrina was the dagger.
The dagger that then led to consecutive conference championships and NCAA bids? False. The president a few years decided to kill athletics by demoting it rather than supporting a modest fee increase. He was run off for total incompetence, but the damage was done.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:21 pm to ell_13
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UNO used to be a pretty darn good program. It was on it's way down as Tulane was coming up and then Katrina was the dagger
Just based on geography they could be good again, but it's going to be tougher than before, even though they dropped a bit in competition from the Sunbelt to the Southland.
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:25 pm to ell_13
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UNO used to be a pretty darn good program. It was on it's way down as Tulane was coming up and then Katrina was the dagger.
Oh I know, but it will be a miracle with current politics within the education system...similar to what the poster said above me.
ETA: Also Kenny Bonura isn't going to walk through that door and fix the program overnight
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:30 pm to Jwho77
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The president a few years decided to kill athletics by demoting it rather than supporting a modest fee increase.
even if Tim Ryan supported it a commuter school full of LSU fans and nontraditional students was never going to vote it in... UNO students don't want to pay more for athletics so they get the programs they deserve
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