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re: Dave Aranda quote on defensive plan against Bama last year
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:57 pm to BillF
Posted on 5/27/17 at 3:57 pm to BillF
With the multiple posts regarding who gets credit for Austin Thomas' hire, etc. I thought I'd ask a couple of questions myself:
A) Why did Austin feel the need to leave LSU just after NLI day in 2016 to take the same position at USC?
B) Why does he now have much more responsibility after returning having previously spent about 3 yrs on staff?
A) Why did Austin feel the need to leave LSU just after NLI day in 2016 to take the same position at USC?
B) Why does he now have much more responsibility after returning having previously spent about 3 yrs on staff?
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Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:00 pm to Tiger Ree
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It's fun fricking with you. You are a broken record and the funniest thing that I have now learned, is that you are serious about this shite.
So you've reached the stage where youre labeling your ignorance as trolling.
Serious? I didn't know stating facts is frowned upon.
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Herman is the man. 6th place finish in the AAC should get him a major job. Ha Ha Ha
The above stat is far better than having the worst tenure in ole miss history.
You're literally the only person I've eve heard that woukd choose a dline coach over Tom herman.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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If not hiring a singke staff member,
Not even one? I thought Canada was the OC at Pittsburgh. I may be wrong though.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:16 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You're literally the only person I've eve heard that woukd choose a dline coach over Tom herman.
You must have missed when LSU hired Coach O instead of the Herminator who kisses his players.
Tom Herman: There needs to be more hugs and kisses on football teams
He doesn’t shy away from showing love to his players
“As they’re coming into the locker room on game day, I kiss our guys a lot,” Herman said
‘Yo, love you dog,’ love,” Herman said last year.
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:18 pm to Tiger Ree
Aranda and the defense shut down Bama. Yes they shut as down as well. But it makes me sick that the refs wouldn't let the game go where it should have gone: overtime at 0-0
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:19 pm to emanresu
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Not one idea? Like how he has never been a head coach? The mound of head coaching failures is filled with brilliant coordinators.
And LSU hired an epic failure of a HC to be our HC. Fire Orgeron now. He's a joke
Posted on 5/27/17 at 4:34 pm to Tiger Ree
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‘Yo, love you dog,’ love,” Herman said last year.
As said right before he lost to Navy, SMU and Memphis and another scrub I can't think of right now even though he had the most talented team in his conference. But hey, give me a kiss Macho Man. Macho Macho, Man
Every man wants to be a macho macho man
to have the kind of body, always in demand
Jogging in the mornings, go man go
works out in the health spa, muscles glow
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
ready to get down with, anyone he can
You can tell a macho, he has a funky walk
his western shirts and leather, always look so boss
Funky with his body, he's a king
call him Mister Eagle, dig his chains
You can best believe that, he's a macho man
likes to be the leader, he never dresses grand
Posted on 5/27/17 at 5:02 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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LOL I've forgotten more football than you know junior
Alzheimer's a bitch
Posted on 5/27/17 at 5:26 pm to I20goon
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I would imagine that there are many who do not prepare in a way anything close to this. That there are the majority who do.
That just blows my fricking mind. These guys are getting paid hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars to coach a GAME. They cant do simple analysis?
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It is not in our nature to go into a level of detail past what we think is safe, normal, or (more importantly) adequate.
So true and the source of much of my frustration with people in my lifetime.
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how many coaches have you met (outside baseball) who will give equal weight to statistics and pattern analysis versus experience and gut.
Thats sad. And ignorant. I shouldnt be surprised by this considering my favorite sports team was headed by Less Smiles for the last forever.
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All this doesn't include the tendency to repeat what has worked in the past. If you assume that it worked in the past therefore it should work again,
Jesus. They ARE a bunch of dumbasses arent they? This is like "No Duh, 101".
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If you assume that if it worked in the past therefore statistically the chances of having a repeat are lower,
Whats the term for this? Is it related to Martingale theory? There is a human element there so maybe not. Any statistics majors here?
Posted on 5/27/17 at 5:43 pm to smash williams
Needs to have a permanent contract.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 6:37 pm to nola000
Are you suggesting you should repeat things that haven't worked in the past?
Posted on 5/27/17 at 8:22 pm to tilthatday
(no message)
This post was edited on 5/27/17 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 5/27/17 at 8:52 pm to I20goon
I didn't read all seven pages, but I just wanted to say that I'm pretty sure that Aranda could be an offensive coordinator as well.
I'm not even sure whether or not I'm joking.
I'm not even sure whether or not I'm joking.
Posted on 5/27/17 at 8:56 pm to sertorius
quote:Consider yourself blessed.
I didn't read all seven pages
Posted on 5/27/17 at 9:01 pm to drizztiger
quote:right on, fixed.
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I didn't read all seven pages
Consider yourself blessed.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:52 am to Tiger Ree
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You must have missed when LSU hired Coach O instead of the Herminator who kisses his players.
He offered Herman and Fisher the job before going to Coach O.
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Tom Herman: There needs to be more hugs and kisses on football teams
He doesn’t shy away from showing love to his players
“As they’re coming into the locker room on game day, I kiss our guys a lot,” Herman said
‘Yo, love you dog,’ love,” Herman said last year.
Ok.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 12:59 am to Tiger Ree
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Not even one? I thought Canada was the OC at Pittsburgh. I may be wrong though.
During his interim tenure.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 1:19 am to Rickdaddy4188
Honestly, what is your axe to grind? I have to ask because all you do is rip on the current coaches..... let me rephrase, Orgeron and now Canada because of the interim label.
I understand you post "I want them to be successful and etc" but you quickly get back to dumping on Orgeron. It's like you want to see him fail just so you can say, "See everybody. I told y'all."
Instead of looking past his label as interim coach.
"Well, he's an interim coach so that doesn't count. All the wins that everyone else counts, well I'm not counting those. It was the way the planets lined up on that particular day, nothing else."
No, you've never stated the above quote but it's what you suggest and insinuate in damn near every one of your posts.
You're hanging on O's time at Ole Miss, 10 years removed now, and completely dismiss his time at USC when he did better than Kiffin but refuse to acknowledge that because of an interim label.
Like he's destined to fail just from his time at Ole Miss. There's no way anyone could learn (gasp) from their mistakes.
While Orgeron doesn't have the resume, you can't, well you can if you choose but an objective person would give him the benefit of the doubt seeing how he has improved as a head coach. He let his coordinators (not his hires, you already know this) do their job and kept his fingers out of it. (Which was one of the biggest complaints of Miles.) So now O can't win with either decision, mess with the offense, "oh no! He's not letting the coordinators do their job!" or ""Geez, can't he tell his coordinators what to do?" Then he hires his own staff but you still focus on what he did 10 years ago. He's amassed a great recruiting class but don't let that sway you at all either.
I understand you post "I want them to be successful and etc" but you quickly get back to dumping on Orgeron. It's like you want to see him fail just so you can say, "See everybody. I told y'all."
Instead of looking past his label as interim coach.
"Well, he's an interim coach so that doesn't count. All the wins that everyone else counts, well I'm not counting those. It was the way the planets lined up on that particular day, nothing else."
No, you've never stated the above quote but it's what you suggest and insinuate in damn near every one of your posts.
You're hanging on O's time at Ole Miss, 10 years removed now, and completely dismiss his time at USC when he did better than Kiffin but refuse to acknowledge that because of an interim label.
Like he's destined to fail just from his time at Ole Miss. There's no way anyone could learn (gasp) from their mistakes.
While Orgeron doesn't have the resume, you can't, well you can if you choose but an objective person would give him the benefit of the doubt seeing how he has improved as a head coach. He let his coordinators (not his hires, you already know this) do their job and kept his fingers out of it. (Which was one of the biggest complaints of Miles.) So now O can't win with either decision, mess with the offense, "oh no! He's not letting the coordinators do their job!" or ""Geez, can't he tell his coordinators what to do?" Then he hires his own staff but you still focus on what he did 10 years ago. He's amassed a great recruiting class but don't let that sway you at all either.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 1:47 am
Posted on 5/28/17 at 1:49 am to la_birdman
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Honestly, what is your axe to grind?
Do you ask this of the posters that do/did nothing but crap on miles and his tenure?
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have to ask because all you do is rip on the current coaches
It's not ripping o when I say he has never run a successful side of the or a successful program. That's reality.
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I understand you post "I want them to be successful and etc" but you quickly get back to dumping on Orgeron.
It's only dumping on O if I were giving my opinion. Stating facts isnt defending or supporting.
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t's like you want to see him fail just so you can say,
I've repeatedly said I think O will be successful.
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No, you've never stated the above quote but it's what you suggest and insinuate in damn near every one of your posts
And? I don't consider O's interim tenure as running a program because he wasn't running the offense,wasnt running the defense, didnt hire single staff member and didnt recruit any of the stars on the 2016 team.
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You're hanging on O's time at Ole Miss,
Because it's literally the only time We Orgeron has had his fingerprints all over a program.
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completely dismiss his time at USC when he did better than Tiffin but refuse to acknowledge that because of an interim label.
For the 1 millionth time.
If not running the offense,not running the defense,not hiring a single staff member, not choosing schemes is considered running a program then I've been running programs all my life.
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Like he's destined to fail just from his time at Ole Miss.
I've literally never said this.
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There's no way anyone could learn (gasp) from their mistakes.
I've literally never said this.
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you choose but an objective person would give him the benefit of the doubt seeing how he has improved as a head coach.
We don't know if he has improved at running a program. Since ole miss he has never coached for more than 8 straight seasons.
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e let his coordinators (not his hires, you already know this) do their job and kept his fingers out of i
The best coaches in cfb are hands on.
Why even offer O if all he is doing is recruiting and not interfering with the offense or defense? We shoukdve hired someone that has at least proven they can run a successful side of the ball.
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Then he hires his own staff but you still focus on what he did 10 years ago.
What? I gave him credit for Canada and keeping the class intact. I've repeatedly said that O is officially on the clock as running lsu's program.
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He's amassed a great recruiting class but don't let that sway you at all either.
He was left a top 5 class. I also give in credit for keeping the class together. Keeping a class together doesnt prove he has become better at running a program. It proves he is the great recruiter everyone already thought he was.
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But focus on that interim label if you must just to support your argument, since you obviously love going against the grain.
Who knew that i have been running programs all my life?
Posted on 5/28/17 at 1:52 am to Elleshoe
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And LSU hired an epic failure of a HC to be our HC. Fire Orgeron now. He's a joke
Havent you heard? You have to forget what happened during the only time in O's career where he was actually making all the decisions on a team that wasn't already built.
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