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re: Daniels staying has nothing to do with Howard

Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
4462 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:08 pm to
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If you think Howard has a chance to beat Nuss, what does Daniels have to do with anything? Again, Nuss is the variable.


Imagine thinking that competing with one guy, who wasn’t already the starter is not more attractive than competing with two guys, one of whom has already been named the starter.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11875 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

#2/3 is up between JR and JD


No. JDs season was not top 3 in LSU history. Please stop with that garbage. In most cases he had more games than other and Mets 2013 was better.

He was responsible for basically the same number of TDs as Max Johnson was in 2 less games. He had lots of rushing yards and that was at the detriment of the rushing attack as a whole. People complained about the RBs underperforming but that’s what happens when the QB calls his own number so much and defenses have no respect for his long ball.

JD had a really good season, but it was a selfish one. Trading not throwing INTs for taking drive killing sacks is exactly the same thing.

Many of you ate simply overrating JD’s season for some absurd reason. He’s a mediocre passer with great elusiveness as a runner. Good for him, but outside of 3-4 games this season, he was mediocre overall.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451421 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:20 pm to
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He had lots of rushing yards and that was at the detriment of the rushing attack as a whole.

What?

JD made our running game. Without JD our backs would have been even less efficient.

quote:

Many of you ate simply overrating JD’s season for some absurd reason.

I'm looking at the stats.

You are emotionally and irrationally saying the stats don't count b/c he was "selfish"
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
3459 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

He had lots of rushing yards and that was at the detriment of the rushing attack as a whole.
what
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41959 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

He had lots of rushing yards and that was at the detriment of the rushing attack as a whole.


Posted by OldSchoolTiger4103
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2022
74 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:22 pm to
Team Mensa has spoken! Typical uneducated buffoon!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451421 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

what

There is a meme that has developed that JD screwed over our RBs and took their stats

People say this with a straight face while we trotted out a walkon RB
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4891 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:23 pm to
Are you hoping for this to happen or just stating the obvious? The exclamation point threw me off.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
11875 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 4:38 pm to
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What? JD made our running game. Without JD our backs would have been even less efficient.


False. Teams stacked the box and a ton of the time he kept the ball on read option when the right call was to give it to the back. He also killed any rhythm in the run game.

Again, he played well at time and is a big reason for LSU’s success this season, but he also was an anchor to the offense in numerous ways.

quote:

I'm looking at the stats. You are emotionally and irrationally saying the stats don't count b/c he was "selfish"


Stats without context are meaningless. Watching how a player got those stats is important too, not just stats.

He put up stats in 14 games. You also ignore how many sacks he took. It’s a similar debate between Brees and Rodgers. Brees three more picks while Rodgers took way more sacks while throwing less picks.

Both ways cost your team, but you al ignore that with Daniels.

Again, Max Johnson in 2021 put up similar passing yards and equal overall TDs with a worse team and way worse offensive coaching against a similar schedule in 2 less games. Worse is Johnson averaged more TDs per game.

But keep saying stats make him 3rd best because I don’t see any of you saying Max Had a top 3/4 LSU season.

Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
10838 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:18 pm to
How did we whiff? Never going to see the field her for significant playing time. That to me is a whiff! If he sucks as bad as we think, causing him to leave, maybe we should have never had him commit and put more pressure on other qbs.
Posted by Kocin
Pearland Texas
Member since Feb 2017
723 posts
Posted on 1/13/23 at 4:01 am to
So this mother flicker demanded a redshirt and wanted second team reps! I mean who fu$$ going to prepare the QB they can’t play! For fu$$ sake you people are freaking idiots
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6224 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 4:52 am to
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If the defense and special teams play as badly as they did in those losses this year, then no QB on our roster is preventing LSU from having 4 losses again.




But yet you fail to mention the defense saved our arse in Miss State Arky and Auburn games.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6224 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 4:57 am to
quote:

Not interested in reading you trying to frame this into a race issue. Honestly not surprised you haven’t been banned for spamming the board with that.



I try to make it a race issue? Look up and down this thread.
I literally listed Nuss faults and not one person came to defend him.

I simply asked why? I lost JD faults and 10 people come to defense him and I also asked why?

Because if I list both faults and only on QB gets defended it's something more sinister.

That is what people like you in this cancel culture want is someone always to be silenced.
Posted by Geaux Guy
Member since Dec 2018
6023 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 5:08 am to
I blame both Nuss and Daniels. If they weren’t here, we’d have Howard and that other guy. Simple logic.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6224 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 7:01 am to
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I blame both Nuss and Daniels. If they weren’t here, we’d have Howard and that other guy. Simple logic.



It is simple logic to those who actually want to see it.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13168 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 7:38 am to
We will see more of the same next year.

Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
13168 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 7:42 am to
I do not understand why anyone thinks that JD5 was an above average QB. From what I have seen he is not one to win a championship. He cannot pass effectively. Now LSU will bring this 5th year starter back hoping for better results.

Good luck with all that.

Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4065 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 7:49 am to
Either way Howard is a clown. He’s going to the exact same situation. The new transfer and Dart ahead of him
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
451421 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 7:51 am to
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I do not understand why anyone thinks that JD5 was an above average QB.

I mean, look at his stats? Our record?

I think you're confused what an "average" QB looks like
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3769 posts
Posted on 1/23/23 at 9:10 am to
quote:

I do not understand why anyone thinks that JD5 was an above average QB.


Perhaps because he ranked 18th in total QBR and led the 9th most efficient offense in the country?
This post was edited on 1/23/23 at 9:11 am
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