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re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Fat Bastard on 11/28/22 at 11:07 am to Htownbayubengal
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bullshite dude. Kelly handpicked him. Kelly loves that running bs. That's one of the main reasons Notre Dame would get blown out in playoffs. He still hasn't learned. We aren't winning a championship with him at qb next year and have not gotten anyone else experience. You have no fkn clue about other options, but we have highly rated QBs on the bench that I guarantee can at least throw the fkn ball down the field. They just aren't the right color for you.
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by White Tiger on 11/28/22 at 11:08 am to FreddieMac
No deep threat receiver? Is that what you mean?
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It's such a bad comparison that I'm having trouble not laughing hard at anyone dumb enough to try to make it.
It's bad because it's Burrow and people immediately jump to the thought that he'll never be Burrow. And he won't. So I do wish they would stop making the comparison. But the point of it, I think, is that QB A had marginal stats in his first year at LSU then exploded in his second.
Can he correct his problems? Of course, he can in theory. Will he be able to in one offseason and is he capable of setting aside habits that have worked for him many times but limit him nonetheless? Only time will tell and that is harder to overcome, particularly in one offseason.
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by FreddieMac on 11/28/22 at 11:46 am to Fat Bastard
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we do and we try. JD5 refuses to throw the ball
Honestly I cannot tell if its his refusal to throw the ball or our inability to get open. From what we see on TV its hard to see if there are open receivers or not. Right now it looks like he has good protection but kids are just not getting open.
I am not trying to troll anyone. I was yelling at the screen to throw the ball like everyone else, but if he is the best we got we have to live and die by his performance.
Seriously, I can only think there is some ingredient missing that we cannot go downfield better.
This post was edited on 11/28 at 11:48 am
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by sportjunkie69 on 11/28/22 at 11:56 am to Shovelhead
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owever, he's not Andrew Hatch either. It is absolutely possible that he's neither the best in LSU history nor the worst. But he did win nine games, and he was very good in some, and very bad in others. One would think more practice, especially with his receivers, developing trust would help him.
So he's a slightly better version of Jordan Jefferson? 9 wins in '10 and beat BAMA. 2011 shite the bed 1/9/12. Just sayin.
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Fat Bastard on 11/28/22 at 12:11 pm to sportjunkie69
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So he's a slightly better version of Jordan Jefferson?
frick no! we all give JJ hell (and yes he had some yterrible games in 2009, SECCG 2011 and natty) but JJ was a better passer. go back and watch those games. it may not be saying much but he was better. JD5 is more akin to marcus randall. go back and watch marcus. eerily similar. go watch marcus in that bama gamed 2002 for starters. ducks flying all over with wide receivers wide arse open all over the field. Mike clayton was some pissed off. I was there.
This post was edited on 11/28 at 12:13 pm
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by LSU12223 on 11/28/22 at 12:27 pm to Htownbayubengal
Yes time! Not many QBs can come into a brand new scheme, with new receivers, new rbs, new o line, and win 9 games. That’s just a fact. Only idiots were expecting this kid to be a perfect quarterback in year 1 OF THE NEW SCHEME, (had to put that in all caps before all the idiots say “heading into year 5”)
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re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Tigerfan1274 on 11/28/22 at 12:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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You simply cannot ignore that Burrow was a first time starter at LSU. Daniels is not.
And that Joe played his best ball in the last four games of the 2018 season. Exactly what you would expect from a first time starter with a new team. Everything was starting to click. Jayden looked in about the same in games 10 & 12 as the early part of the season. Didn't expect that after the Bama game.
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If Daniels gets the proper coaching like Burrow did, there's no reason to think he can't have similar results.
Burrow possesses a speedy processor that helps him pre- and post snap, I haven't seen that at all from JD this season. And, no, I am not saying that JD is not a smart guy. Plenty of current NFL QBs don't posses Burrow's gift either.
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by ellis197575 on 11/28/22 at 12:52 pm to LSU12223
JD's biggest problem isn't the scheme, it's his unwillingness to throw 50/50 balls. It's his long decision-making that's his problem.
JB had an ENTIRELY different mentality than JD. JB was/is a killer! JD lacks that mentality and THAT isn't something that's taught.
I'm as harsh a critic of JD as any fan but he is what he is. As happy as fans are when he runs out of trouble, very often he is the one that created the trouble. He doesn't appear to have a clue of where the ball should go pre-snap. Therefore, he slowly goes through his progressions because he has to actually see what the defense is doing. Once the ball is snapped, he holds the ball too long going through his progressions and the Oline breaks down eventually.
That said, it makes no sense to compare JD and JB. JB was the top draft pick. JD is projected to go somewhere around the 7th round. JB didn't start until transferring to LSU. JD started for 3 years prior to transferring here. JB trusted his WR's to make a play, JD doesn't. JB ran ONLY when he had to but still kept his eyes downfield looking for his guys.
JB had an ENTIRELY different mentality than JD. JB was/is a killer! JD lacks that mentality and THAT isn't something that's taught.
I'm as harsh a critic of JD as any fan but he is what he is. As happy as fans are when he runs out of trouble, very often he is the one that created the trouble. He doesn't appear to have a clue of where the ball should go pre-snap. Therefore, he slowly goes through his progressions because he has to actually see what the defense is doing. Once the ball is snapped, he holds the ball too long going through his progressions and the Oline breaks down eventually.
That said, it makes no sense to compare JD and JB. JB was the top draft pick. JD is projected to go somewhere around the 7th round. JB didn't start until transferring to LSU. JD started for 3 years prior to transferring here. JB trusted his WR's to make a play, JD doesn't. JB ran ONLY when he had to but still kept his eyes downfield looking for his guys.
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Rickdaddy4188 on 11/28/22 at 1:00 pm to FreddieMac
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White Tiger
Daniels was not the problem Saturday
190 yards passing.... 53 coming when the game was already decided.
From the start of the 2nd half until 1 minute left in the 4th quarter JD has given up as many points as he scored.
Our offense gave up 7 and got 7 for the entire 3rd quarter and 14 minutes of the 4th quarter.
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Every passing pattern is either very deep and WR cannot get open of dump offs
Utter bullshite... its like you just didn't watch the game. We ran dozens of curls and comebacks because that's all JD would throw. There was wrs running wide the frick open by sec standards.
This post was edited on 11/28 at 1:02 pm
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Rickdaddy4188 on 11/28/22 at 1:05 pm to LSU12223
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Only idiots were expecting this kid to be a perfect
Perfect... how about put up better passing stats than Danny etling?
Qb a-
Completion % 69.6 15tds 2ints 148.1rating
Qb b-
Comple % 60 16 tds 2 int
153 qb rating
One of these is etling and one is JD
This post was edited on 11/28 at 1:06 pm
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Rickdaddy4188 on 11/28/22 at 1:12 pm to FreddieMac
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Honestly I cannot tell if its his refusal to throw the ball or our inability to get open. From what we see on TV its hard to see if there are open receivers or not. Right now it looks like he has good protection but kids are just not getting open.
I saw 2 different all 22 from earlier in the year..... JD is refusing to throw the ball. We saw Kelly on the sidelines yelling to JD..." it's 1 on 1 throw the fricking ball". He had trouble finding open wrs in the pac12....
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by LSU12223 on 11/28/22 at 1:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Why don’t you add rushing touchdowns in here as well. I loved etling. I don’t think he was used properly.
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Fat Bastard on 11/28/22 at 1:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Utter bullshite... its like you just didn't watch the game.
most rantards do not know WTF they are watching and they refuse to educate themselves!
come on you already knew this!
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We ran dozens of curls and comebacks because that's all JD would throw.
yup. we ran a ton of 3 routes.
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There was wrs running wide the frick open by sec standards.
that has been all year!
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Fat Bastard on 11/28/22 at 1:22 pm to LSU12223
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I loved etling. I don’t think he was used properly.
wrong. canada used him to the best of his ability. canada made him look way better than he actually was. his stats are misleading. watch where most his balls went. like JD? watch his pocket presence. like JD?
we told people before this season started jd5 had terrible completion % on intermediate routes
looks like we were right.
re: Daniels-BurrowPosted by Gus Tinsley on 11/28/22 at 1:24 pm to Grimetime
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Daniels-Burrow
There is NO comparison!!
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