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re: Dandy's interview with Mike Detillier on LSU offense

Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:51 am to
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:51 am to
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What I read was LSU will not win another national championship as long as Les continues to run this type of offense.


What type O did we run when we played in our last 3 NCGs???

Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
8433 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:52 am to
How in the frick is Jennings considered a "caretaker"? Other than the opposing defense's stats, what does he take care of?
Posted by Superior Pariah
Member since Jun 2009
8457 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:58 am to
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Mike Detillier

he is ALL opinion. he has no inside access. dont be fooled people

he is a draft analyst. that doesnt make him an expert on all things football and/or LSU



I bet he knows a whole lot more than you or any other rantard. Just a hunch.
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:02 pm to
I'm no rantard pal

He should know more than me...........well.......because it is his job.

I'm just saying that he is not the gospel. People post his opinions like he is Nostradamus



FTR, I dont think LSU has a 2 qb system next as he suggests. I dislike him because he portrays his opinion as an inevitability, rather than his opinion. I guess its his delivery that annoys me the most. To each their own. I dont prefer him, just my opinion
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:05 pm to
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TIGRLEE

I just don't understand.


truer words have never been spoken!!
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158761 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:09 pm to
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Jennings because right now he is more comfortable in the scheme and will not take chances out on the field.


yes because no scoring at all is better than a turnover....except for the fact that jennings does turn the ball over. So no upside and turnovers....I can see why they feel so comfortable with him
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 12:10 pm
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
Uptown NO,LA
Member since Jan 2013
9739 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:10 pm to
I can't think of any other school more notorious for screwing up the quarterback position worse than LSU.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20019 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:18 pm to
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For instance, what more does Diarse have to show? In the few times they allowed him to (most notably vs. Wisc and ND) the guy made catches on intermediate routes and turned them in to big plays with his ability to run after the catch.


Diarse messed up on his routes more than any other WR. Thats why you barely saw him in the middle of the season. But to your point, he is great with the ball on his hands, so you have to find a way to get it there.

Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20019 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:19 pm to
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Is there evidence to support the notion that Mike Detillier is any more informed than the average rant poster?


No, I'm not sure how this guy gets any credit to be honest.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28349 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:34 pm to
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How in the frick is Jennings considered a "caretaker"? Other than the opposing defense's stats, what does he take care of?


As stated in the article, Harris is probably more of a "gunslinger" who is apt to go outside of the offense and try to make plays on his own. Jennings on the other hand may have made some poor throws, but he rarely took risks. There is a reason Harris did not play the rest of the season after AU. I think it's because Les is terrified that he won't stay within the confines of what He (Les) wants to do on offense. Jennings is considered a "caretaker" because he is seen as the less risky option. Whether that means he is the better QB is up for debate.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:34 pm to
There are several things I disagree with Detillier about. First, even Les Miles has to recognize that teams can run effectively from the spread formation, and LSU's QBs are more suited to the spread formation than the I formation. Add in the lack of experience at FB, and I expect to see LSU utilize the spread formation more. This will eliminate much of Jennings' advantage over Harris due to comfort with and knowledge of the I formation plays.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12306 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:40 pm to
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blow hard idiot
Unlike the rest of us on TR. Good. I can stop reading now.
Posted by TickledTiger
Down & Out
Member since Dec 2007
2837 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:43 pm to
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even Les Miles has to recognize that teams can run effectively from the spread formation, and LSU's QBs are more suited to the spread formation than the I formation
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:44 pm to
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I hope that is true about Guice

I think the big difference between the two is that Guice has that extra gear, much like Hill and Fournette, though he isn't nearly as powerful as those two. Saw him live a couple of times and he really reminded me of Kevin Faulk; quick cuts, explosive through the hole and really runs to daylight. Brossette is much more a Williams type of runner with good power and tackle-breaking ability. I agree with many who say that no one has a better quartet of running backs going into this season.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:46 pm to
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Les is terrified


Terrified?
WTF do you mean? Because he is naturally cautious and doesn't want to take any un needed risks that makes him terrified?
What in your life has ever qualified to judge if someone is "terrified"?
If you had a job that depended in a large part on the abilities of others to perform according to plan, how "terrified" would you be in trusting that job to someone who has shown that he can't be trusted to perform within the accepted guidelines?
What is terrifying around here are the fan boys that have a personal rooting interest in one athlete over the good of the TEAM.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:47 pm to
Sorta like playing not to lose instead if playing to win.


Awesome competitive mentality.
Unfortunately for LSU and it's fans in football, it's good for about 3-4-5th place in the secw and another shitty arse bowl.
Ya!

Once again, I just don't get it.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 1:26 pm
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:56 pm to
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Is there evidence to support the notion that Mike Detillier is any more informed than the average rant poster?


Yes without a doubt. Do u read the rant?

Detweiler knows his football and can access the Tigers objectively as well as anyone out there.

If any of you wouldve read the article. You wouldve read where he mentioned D Williams as the clear #2 and included him in the best backfield in the sport.

He reiterated a few times that the "X" factor will be the offensive line, not Guice. He likes Guice and the change of pace that he may provide could be similar to what Magee provided, which was alot.



As far as the QB battle goes, Miles will play the QB that gives the team the best chance of winning that week. He is not a coach that will sacrifice the hard work of his returning lettermen just to give Harris "experience". He will not allow turnovers or a QB playing outside of the offense. Miles is not a gunslinger's coach. U can bash that all u want, it is what it is.

Harris will have to win the job on the playing field, just like Detweiler states. Which means playing within the offense and not turning the ball over.
He mentioned that Jennings is inaccurate, which is a big problem.

The Qb battle is just what it is.

On the one hand, u have a calm coachable guy that knows the offense extremely well. A player that is limited in talent, but is a good leader. A player that has worked extremely hard to get better last season and this latest offseason. Will it be enough to complete more passes and allow the running game to see an occasional 7 man front?

On the other u have a fast guy with a rocket of an arm. A clear talent and home grown, which has been very rare recently. A NFL talent that wants to play like a gunslinger with a HC that will not allow that. Coaches have faced this many times thru the years at both major levels.

Miles was one drive away from having a stellar season with poor QB play against a loaded SEC last season, but know one wants to say anything about that.

Lets just continue to bash Miles and Jennings, that seems much the cooler thing to do around here. And while we are at it, lets compare Detweiler to the average ranter.







This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Shiftyplus1
Regret nothing that made you smile
Member since Oct 2005
13349 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:00 pm to
Our offense would have been fine last year if Jennings had displayed more accuracy. To many misses on easy throws, and to many dropped passes at crucial moments (I'm looking at you Quinn). If we run the same O, and our Qbs can complete 60+% of their throws, we'll be in great shape.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Flynn and Mauck weren't all world passers but they could get the ball to our playmakers. With our RB's, that's all we need. 


Flynn and Mauck were gunslingers and turnover prone.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98793 posts
Posted on 4/6/15 at 1:15 pm to
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Both quarterbacks will play, and I think the competition continues into the season.


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