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Dandy Don stat of the day....17 players out.

Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:39 am
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10209 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:39 am
Per Dandy Don....and I agree, Beats all I've ever seen. I'm not defending Coach here, but I don't know if any program could survive this mess:

2. Beats all I’ve ever seen. By my unofficial count, LSU has at least 17 players currently unavailable. The list below combines the players who were reported out before last week’s Ole Miss game plus the new additions. I should note that it could be off a little since some guys might have returned to health, but you get the point. I didn’t include offensive linemen Cam Wire and Chasen Hines since Orgeron sounded hopeful that they’d be back next week. And I didn’t include running back Tré Bradford, who, as far as I know, hasn’t yet gained eligibility since transferring back to LSU.

DE André Anthony
WR Kayshon Boutté
OL Anthony Bradford
QB Myles Brennan
S Major Burns
RB John Emery
DT Joseph Evans
DE Ali Gaye
OT Xavier Hill
WR Chris Hilton
DE Landon Jackson
TE Aaron Moffitt
WR Koy Moore
CB Eli Ricks
LB Jared Small
WR Deion Smith
CB Derek Stingley
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
2803 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:40 am to
That’s insane. Has Chris Hilton or Landon Jackson played at all this season? I think both were coming off injuries.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:41 am
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4176 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:40 am to
Sounds like a cultural problem and conditioning issue. All of which fall on…. Coach O.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260665 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:41 am to
This is why you need a change now.

Not "announce" a change then sit on your arse for months. Fire the guy, figure out what is happening.

I think Woody is trying to hold it together, but he cannot.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57702 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:45 am to
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This is why you need a change now.


You can’t reverse course now…would make us look even more dumb. There were going to be ebbs and flows high and low, just have to weather the storm.

In my opinion, should have done a clean break or waited till the end of the season.
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:46 am to
Coach O feeling the effect?

Coach O the cause?

No doubt snowballed into irrecoverable performance gaps. But down deep feels like a plague sourced from O leadership and culture

Time for fresh start
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8418 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:47 am to
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All of which fall on…. Coach O.


I know you will be DV'd to oblivion, but the buck stops here. He is the one who has all these coach's and SC people on staff, and in his grand plan, it has all failed, miserably.

But hey, "BEST WEEK OF PRACTICE EVER!"
Posted by BDoubleEZ
Burleson, TX
Member since Sep 2021
660 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:51 am to
This isn't just a horrible coincidence. While some are legitimately injured, there are some who apparently just either don't want to play for Orgeron/LSU anymore or they're thinking about their draft stock. Either way, the current culture at LSU sucks. The team is soft and there's a lot of this that is the result of using the "We're your ticket to the NFL" recruiting tactic.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:51 am to
I believe all except for Emery and Brennan were available for UCLA, correct?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260665 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:53 am to
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You can’t reverse course now…would make us look even more dumb.


Would be forgotten by November.

Woody is fricking up letting Ed hang around. Ed has WOody by the balls, or something. Full buyout and allowed to finish.

What a negotiating powerhouse. Woody is a glorified fundraiser at this point.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:55 am
Posted by pxrona
Central
Member since Jan 2018
1006 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:56 am to
There’s no way they are all truly injured. This is the new form of opting out to try and save face. Prevent the backlash
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1587 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:03 am to
Woody is letting everyone see just how bad it is under O. No one can come back and say “you fired him too soon after a natty” now. O destroyed this team in record time. Plus he can’t change course at this point. O checked out and now we’re seeing the ability of the crap staff he hired.
Posted by Tigger98
Member since Oct 2020
913 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:03 am to
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 then sit on your arse for months. Fire the guy, figure out what is happening


No.


1)He's doing the same thing right now, as he would be if O was gone.

2) Figure out and then what?
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 9:04 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260665 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:04 am to
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Woody is letting everyone see just how bad it is under O.


That would be incredibly stupid.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260665 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:06 am to
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All of which fall on…. Coach O.
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I know you will be DV'd to oblivion, but the buck stops here.


The day Ed signed his termination this became Woodies problem.

And it will continue if Ed is allowed to hang around.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
11333 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:07 am to
To be fair, only about 10 or 11 of those are significantly better than the guys playing now. But 10 or 11 is still a big hit.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10209 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:11 am to
quote:

While some are legitimately injured, there are some who apparently just either don't want to play for Orgeron/LSU anymore or they're thinking about their draft stock. Either way, the current culture at LSU sucks. The team is soft and there's a lot of this that is the result of using the "We're your ticket to the NFL" recruiting tactic.


Agreed 100%
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1587 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:12 am to
Look O checked out, so what little effort he was putting in isn’t happening anymore. Basically the staff, one of which would be the interim coach if Ed got kicked, is running things now anyway. It’s a no win situation because no one on our staff can do any better. And no SE doesn’t want to take a beating as the interim over the next four games.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6450 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:16 am to
Coach got fired, players "quit".

Scholarship players arnet losing there scholarships.. maybe thats the problem. Just my .02
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5184 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:16 am to
They all played against UCLA and we saw how that turned out.
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