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re: Culotta: Max Johnson clearly number 1 and not even close.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:00 pm to chinhoyang
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:00 pm to chinhoyang
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chinhoyang
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It is sad that Finley was never given a chance.
I really dont get how you have the dumbest takes on this site consistently. The guy got more starts than any QB last season on the team.
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:01 pm to SammyTiger
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He completed less passes. Scored less TDS. We punted more. Kicked the same number of FGs.
I forget, in which of those games did Terrace Marshall have 11 catches for 235 yards and 3 TDs? Do you think he might have helped Johnson's numbers just a little?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:09 pm to Alt26
quote:exactly, I've been saying this for years now. Your examples are great, and there are many, many others.
Our fanbase is so shell-shocked that we find it unfathomable a 1st or 2nd year QB can have great success.
Jameis Winston was a 1st year starter and RS-Freshman when he led FSU to the national championship.
Deshaun Watson was a Soph when he led Clemson to the NC game. Jake Fromm and Jalen Hurts led their teams to NC games as true freshmen. Trevor Lawrence won a NC as a true freshman. Johnny Manziel won the Heisman as a True Freshman.
While not a 100% success rate, it is possible to have a young QB lead a championship team.
Young / inexperienced QBs play all over the country, and play very well. They wins Heismans and NCs. This has happened for years.
You'd think our fanbase would let go of the "youth" excuse at QB.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:12 pm to SammyTiger
Sammy I don’t care what Max did agsinst Florida 
Freshman Vs a 4th year guy
Comparing the 2 is stupid
Freshman Vs a 4th year guy
Comparing the 2 is stupid
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:16 pm to shinerfan
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I forget, in which of those games did Terrace Marshall have 11 catches for 235 yards and 3 TDs? Do you think he might have helped Johnson's numbers just a little?
Could he push the ball downfield to him?
You’re acting like 60%+ of Johnson’s passing yards weren’t all to Boutte.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:18 pm to Lester Earl
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Sammy I don’t care what Max did agsinst Florida
Freshman Vs a 4th year guy
Comparing the 2 is stupid
Sorry, but what conversation do you think we’re having here?
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:19 pm to Alt26
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Johnny Manziel won the Heisman as a True Freshman
Not to nitpick, but for the sake of accuracy JM was a RS freshman plus January enrollee which is a significant difference from a true Frosh, if you ask me. But, to your point, yes there are some notable instances where first year, underclassman starters have had significant success.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:27 pm to thunderbird1100
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47 yard TD drive,
On a short field from TO on downs
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a 74 yard drive
that ended in failure quote:
42 yard FG drive,
4 plays, 7 yards off a turnover
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34 yard missed FG drive
45yd FG, on an 8 play 34 yard drive that started at the LSU39.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:34 pm to SammyTiger
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Sorry, but what conversation do you think we’re having here?
I’m not into transitive comparisons when there are tons of variables present
I know you are into that tho.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:38 pm to Lester Earl
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On a short field from TO on downs
47 yards isnt exactly that short a drive, You still have to go the 47 yards and we did, for the TD. Again, 1 of SEVEN drives over 30 yards that game. While you're trying to downplay the offense.
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a 74 yard drive
that ended in failure
Which is not entirely on Myles, who accounted for like 67 of those 74 yards on that drive. Again, there's people in this very thread propping up Max Johnson for going 2/3, 3 yards passing and 2 rushes for 9 yards on our game winning drive against UF, yet, people want to complain about Myles' 74 yard drive against Mizzou because we couldnt punch it in from the 1 yard line twice on runs and were forced to throw.
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42 yard FG drive,
4 plays, 7 yards off a turnover
No, I'm talking about a 42 yard drive that ended in a FG. End of the 3rd quarter, we drove from our own 25 yard line to their 33 yard line to kick a FG. That's 42 yards driving the field. We got a holding penalty on 2nd 10 (on a TDP run) to send it to a 2nd/20 on Mizzou's side of the field. Stalling that drive, Myles' fault though, I'm sure.
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34 yard missed FG drive
45yd FG, on an 8 play 34 yard drive that started at the LSU39.
Not sure what you're trying to correct here. What I stated was correct, it was 1 of 7 drives over 30 yards we had that game, look at the box score. But hey it ended in a BLOCKED FG, all Myles' fault, meanwhile Max's masterful last minute drive against UF people are touting on this thread where he went 2/3, 3 yards passing and 2 rushes for 9 yards where we hit a 57 yarder is obviously more impressive
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:44 pm to Lester Earl
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I’m not into transitive comparisons when there are tons of variables present
We’re talking about 2 QBs.
You’re using performance in a game against one, but want to ignore the same factors in a game against the other.
That’s what you’re into.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:45 pm to GumboPot
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If he did transfer Tulane would be perfect for Myles.
Yea not really. Tulane already has a legit starter at qb, who I think is a sophomore, and dual threat. Unlikely they'd hand Brennan his job.
Brennan should be looking around at Power 5 schools who are thin at QB, but have a decent team otherwise. That might be his ticket to the NFL.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:52 pm to sportjunkie69
quote:NFL??? Brennan??? Good lord, man.
Brennan should be looking around at Power 5 schools who are thin at QB, but have a decent team otherwise. That might be his ticket to the NFL.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:54 pm to SammyTiger
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You’re using performance in a game against one, but want to ignore the same factors in a game against the other.
Are you grading Freshmen in their 1st rd start the same as you are a 4th year QB? I’m just curious
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:54 pm to atltiger6487
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NFL??? Brennan??? Good lord, man.
Some of you make me laugh, what makes Brennan incapable of being drafted? He was well on his way to being an NFL pick last season going out with a performance like he did in the Mizzou game if he could keep up more performances like that.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:56 pm to GumboPot
Myles had more passing yards in half the amount of games as Max. And the offensive line was horrible. If the o line can block anything worth a shite this season, Myles will start.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:57 pm to GumboPot
All you Max Johnson apostles need to understand one thing: Myles Brennan did nothing to un-deserve starting. Unless and until he really screws up, Brennan is the #1 QB. Get over it. He has built up too many loyalty points and Coach O knows that. Brennan will be the starter. That’s just the way it works.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:58 pm to Lester Earl
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Are you grading Freshmen in their 1st rd start the same as you are a 4th year QB? I’m just curious
Yes.
Am not arguing Brennen is better than Johnson will ever be.
But here and now, Brennan looks better. Is that because he’s 3 years ahead of Johnson? Probably.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:59 pm to Lester Earl
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Are you grading Freshmen in their 1st rd start the same as you are a 4th year QB? I’m just curious
They are vying for the exact same role, you cant sit here and treat one different than the other.
Posted on 4/19/21 at 2:59 pm to SammyTiger
Ok wow
Continue to do you Sammy
Continue to do you Sammy
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