re: Consensus recruiting class rankings

It wasn’t far from that. What is the real number? 39 scholarship players? WR at QB, many were saying we could/should forfeit.

That’s not what the rankings say. Read them and weep.

That’s a real hollow comparison. I can sign all of the top wr and Rb and be ranked high, but if I didn’t fill needs, or balance the class then it doesn’t really matter.
A better analysis would be , who’s left from those early classes and who’s contributing

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60 percent of your team is gone

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Goodwin
Dellinger
Baskerville
X. Hill
Dumervil
Turner
Nuss

Did not play in the Texas Bowl, but are still with the team this season. There were a lot of covid protocol and injury issues. There were many other scratches for draft opt outs and transfers which is to be expected when an entire coaching staff is being let go and you have a lot of draft eligible players.

All of this is really moot because we’re up to 72 scholarship players and they’ve gotten rid of the 25 signing limit, so Kelly can sign as many recruits as he wants to get back to 85.

Every program has to deal with attrition, graduates, the transfer portal, etc. Quit crying and quit making excuses. This is LSU football not Vanderbilt.

Do you think the attrition we saw over the last 2 years is normal? It’s definitely not.

The better players in those classes left except for 2022, which wasn't that great.

We ahave a few good players, but probably need twice that many for quality rotations.

For Tenn. our best RB was out , 2 best OL out
Best DL out, Burns out, Ward dinged up and 2 or 3 others. Some transfers are from FCS schools Their replacements were not that good.

We have 2 good LBs - we need 4 or 5

The talent level is not where it needs to be, but that is the group we have.

We will probably be favored to win 1, maybe 2 games.

2019
5*
Derek Stingley - NFL
John Emery - On team split starter
Marcel Brooks - Tranferred
4*
Kardell Thomas - On team non starter
Trey Palmer - Transferred
Maurice Hampton - Tranferred
Siaki Ika - Transferred
Ray Parker - On Team Backup
Ty Davis-Price - NFL
Donte Starks - Kicked off the team
Devonta Lee - Tranferred
Anthony Bradford - On Team
Ray Jones - On team backup

2020
5*
Arik Gilbert - Tranferred
Eli Ricks - Transferred
Kayshon Boutte - On Team starter
4*
Jaquelin Roy - On team starter
Phillip Web - Tranferred
Joran Toles - Trasferred
BJ Ojulari - On team starter
Jacobian Guillory - On team starter
Antonie Sampah - On team backup
Marcus Dumervil - One team backup
Kevontre Bradford - Kicked off team
Josh White - Transferred
Max Johnson - Transferred
Eric Taylor - Transferred
Dwight McGlothern - Tranferred
Koy Moore - Transferred

2021
5*
Maason Smith - On team Out for year
Sage Ryan - On Team starter
4*
Derrick Davis - On Team Backup
Deon Smith - Tranferred
Chris Hilton - On team backup
Garrett Nussmeier - On team Backup
Briam Thomas - On team starter
Garrett Dellinger - On team starter
Armoni Goodwin - On team starter
Landon Jackson - Tranferred
Corey Kiner - Transferred
Bryce Langston - On team backup
Saivion Jones - On team backup
Damarius McGhee - On team backup
Greg Penn - On team starter
Zavier Carter - On team backup
Malik Nabers - On team starter
Jack Bech - On team starter

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2019-5th

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Stingley - draft
Brooks - transfer
Palmer - transfer
Hampton - transfer
Ika - transfer
TDP - draft
Parker - dismissed
Starks - dismissed
Lee - transfer
Parrish - transfer
Flott - draft
Evans - transfer
York - draft

8 of the top 10 players in that class are no longer on the team. 6 of those 8 transferred or were dismissed.

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2020-4th

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Gilbert - transfer
Ricks - transfer
Bradford - transfer
White - transfer
Johnson - transfer
Taylor - transfer
McGlothern - transfer
Moore - transfer
Finley - transfer
Evans - out of eligibility
Shanahan - out of eligibility
Cox - out of eligibility

The top 2 players in the class, who largely drove the score, are gone. At least 12 of the 25 players in the class are gone. Maybe more.

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2021-5th

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D. Smith - transfer
Jackson - transfer
Kiner - transfer
Strong - transfer
Cage - transfer

2 of the top 10 are gone. The rest are basically our team, as true sophomores / RS freshmen.

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2022-13th

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3 of our 15 HS recruits are starting as true freshmen. Another is a major contributor. None of them except for Perkins should really be contributing at all as true freshmen, but we have no other options at OT or TE.

A lot has been made of the scholarship numbers in the bowl last year. It’s true that many of the players who were not available in the bowl ultimately returned this year. That being said, we still only had ~52 (by my count) returning scholarship players by the time the season started. This is astounding when you consider that nobody lost any eligibility in 2020.

There is a reason we signed 15 transfers, and it’s because our depth was shite. Put defensive backfield is a miracle compared to what it looked like in December.

Orgeron was a good recruiter but he was terrible at roster management.