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re: Comparing Matt McMahon's first two years SEC record to the other conference head coaches

Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by Big4SALTbro
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:38 pm to
Well he needs to make the tourny next year. He does that and gets into the top 5 of the sec
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:39 pm to
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31TIGERS


LSU basketball received hardly a slap on the wrist from the NCAA. Anyone with a brain knew they LSU sacrificed Wade in order to receive light punishment for football and basketball. With Wade gone, LSU basketball was free of any “dark cloud”. McMahon’s failure in year one is on him.


But yes, we did take a step forward this season.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 1:47 pm
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:53 pm to
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Shouldn’t a good recruiter be able to keep guys already at a school to stay?


It didn't matter what McMahon said, he could not guarantee them they would be eligible for the NCAA tournament the next two years once the NCAA violations were released. Since the NCAA had just changed the transfer rules to allow eligibility without sitting out a year it was impossible to keep most of them.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:56 pm to
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It didn't matter what McMahon said, he could not guarantee them they would be eligible for the NCAA tournament the next wo years once the NCAA violations were released. Since the NCAA had just changed the transfer rules to allow eligibility without sitting out a year it was impossible to keep most of them.
Then how did he get 3 players from Murray State and said he could have gotten more. Do not the same conditions apply?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48218 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:56 pm to
Sure he could’ve because he did know better. Everyone being honest knew better.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:00 pm to
I am again asking you which of the coaches listed inherited a worse situation than McMahon.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15093 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:01 pm to
Fact is MM couldn’t get the to stay. Most likely because of how fat Scott let the team find out.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:03 pm to
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Then how did he get 3 players from Murray State and said he could have gotten more. Do not the same conditions apply?

I’m not going to pretend to know, but I think it’s a possibility that it is easier to convince player that you already have a connection with and have coached to play for you rather than a player you have no connection with.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:09 pm to
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Fact is MM couldn’t get the to stay


none of them are good anyway
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:19 pm to
MM showed improvement this year, I think most of us can agree on that.

Now it’s time to show what he’s got. It’s NCAA Tourney or bust next year as far as I’m conferenced. Idk why so many take issue with that, it should not take 5 years to rebuild a program to the point of least earning a low seed.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4852 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:23 pm to
Why does it seem like McMahon is disliked as a coach? Why are most things posted that are positive downvoted?
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10435 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Why does it seem like McMahon is disliked as a coach? Why are most things posted that are positive downvoted?


There are fricking assholes on this board with junior high mentalities who love to flame.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15093 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:30 pm to
Yea, asking the team to be in the big dance in a 6-7 bid league in year 3 isn’t unreasonable.

He had horrendous first year no matter what excuses we want to use for him. He had a dreadful start to this year but managed to improve and look much better in sec play.

Now it’s time make the tourny.

Of course he has no pressure next year because LSU isn’t going to take basketball seriously. He can miss the tourny next year and probably even year 4 before our AD puts any heat on.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4852 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:36 pm to
Watching Will Wade’s teams were fun. He was a good coach here. I wanted him to stay. His firing seemed like an overreaction by Woodward, but that has nothing to do with McMahon. I am trying to be objective with McMahon.
Posted by Furlong the Red
My Castle,TX
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:37 pm to
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Why does it seem like McMahon is disliked as a coach? Why are most things posted that are positive downvoted?


There is a sizable portion on LSU "fans" on here that will never get over Will Wade being gone.

They are fun to poke.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15093 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:38 pm to
The only thing he should be compared to Wade in is can he get us Wade results. So far that’s been a no.

I don’t see how anyone could think anything other than the big dance in year 3 is acceptable
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
4852 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:41 pm to
Agreed, I have no problem with that. That is totally fair. Next year is make or break for him.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48218 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:54 pm to
You can’t listen to certain posters because they’re always being disingenuous about why McMahon is criticized. They’ll tell it’s it’s all because of “Wade loyalist” and while there are a couple at most that isn’t it. You can go back to the post history and see Wade being criticized when he fricked up as well. You’ll see us bitching about him playing too small, the defense for multiple seasons, relying on analytics when situational basketball dictated otherwise, roster construction at times. So this silly game they play where they try to paint people as good or evil is just not true. McMahon’s teams have underachieved because of bad coaching in the areas of defensive fundamentals, rebounding, free throws, bad situational awareness, personnel choices and lack of adjustments. It has zero to do with love or hate.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 2:59 pm
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12090 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 3:49 pm to
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but you’re not going to keep many kids if there’s uncertainty about possible sanctions looming.



What difference did it make? We weren't qualifying for any tournaments. (It's still in doubt after three seasons.) What has he got/shown to future recruits? A good salesman/recruiter should have be able to convince them to stay.
Curious. What would you sell them on today?
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