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re: Coach O is a genius for getting JOE BURROW from Ohio State.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:16 pm to Todd O'Connor
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:16 pm to Todd O'Connor
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But I think we need to be honest about who is responsible for this, and what really happened prior to the Brady hire.
If we are being honest we have to credit a ton of people for the success of this offense...the players, brady, O & E.
Brady wouldn't look like he does now if he had come in last year. I know you think it doesn't take a year to change an offense, not sure what makes you think it's an easy transition form one style to another, but we definitely were transitioning from the style we were use to towards a better passing game prior to Brady's arrival.
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Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:18 pm to Mohican
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It’s pointless really. The goalposts will continue to move.
If you define 0 points against Bama, 24 points against Arkansas and A&M as strong, that's a you problem. Thank God we had garbage arse Rice and 7 over times to pad some stats.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:20 pm to Todd O'Connor
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But I think we need to be honest about who is responsible for this, and what really happened prior to the Brady hire.
There isn’t a season I remember being an LSU fan where I can’t go back and find something glaringly wrong with that season’s team.
What a weird arse exercise. It’s never ever ever perfect.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:20 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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There's no substance to the O-Bashers arguments anymore. Seems they are doing it out of habit. lol
Who is bashing him in this thread?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:21 pm to Topwater Trout
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Brady wouldn't look like he does now if he had come in last year.
How on earth can you say this with any certainty?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:24 pm to LNCHBOX
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How on earth can you say this with any certainty?
Because we had a new qb that didn't have any timing with receivers. An oline that wasn't nearly as good as now and we are much better at the rb position.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:24 pm to LNCHBOX
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Who is bashing him in this thread?
No one.
In fact, no one was bashing Ensminger either.
This perpetual argument is solely due to the fact that someone dared suggest that Orgeron wasn't a genius, and others who had the audacity to praise Brady while failing to equally praise Ensminger.
Rinse, repeat.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:25 pm to Topwater Trout
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Because we had a new qb that didn't have any timing with receivers. An oline that wasn't nearly as good as now and we are much better at the rb position.
And the system we run this year may have made all those players look much better than they played last year. You don't know that, so don't try to pass it off as fact.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:29 pm to LNCHBOX
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And the system we run this year may have made all those players look much better than they played last year. You don't know that, so don't try to pass it off as fact.
You don't know that last years offense would have been better had Brady been here either
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:31 pm to LNCHBOX
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And the system we run this year may have made all those players look much better than they played last year.
The problem is, we can't even admit that the issues we were complaining about last year have largely been fixed schematically this year. Would Burrow and the offense have been this good last year had we gotten Brady and this scheme last year? Probably not...but there's no way to know. Would we all not now have preferred seeing this offense, even while working out the kinks, last year instead of what we trotted out?
But yeah...how much better could Burrow have looked if he was no longer under center and trying to rely on max protect to be able to get the ball off? Better probably?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:31 pm to Topwater Trout
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You don't know that last years offense would have been better had Brady been here either
I'm not the one claiming one version as a fact, now am I?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:36 pm to LNCHBOX
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I'm not the one claiming one version as a fact, now am I?
me saying...
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Brady wouldn't look like he does now if he had come in last year
is an opinion not a fact. And I seriously doubt we would have set SEC scoring records with a qb that missed spring camp and had no timing with wrs just bc we had Brady.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:37 pm to Topwater Trout
Common sense is all it takes to realize with zero continuity and zero returning production, combined with freshmen playing in skill positions, that there was a big learning curve. Now you have a tremendously improved and experienced wr Corp, a much improved and experienced OL, returning production at rb, and an experienced qb that has spent many hours developing timing with the wrs. You also have an OL coach who has had a year now to teach his scheme. Of course, asking for common sense on this board is like lol.
I don't know these posters history, but the fact they keep putting down last year, a top 6 finish, tells me that they aren't likely O fans. It is pretty easy to see.
Lsu was ranked around 80th in returning production last year. This year, top 15 I believe.
I don't know these posters history, but the fact they keep putting down last year, a top 6 finish, tells me that they aren't likely O fans. It is pretty easy to see.
Lsu was ranked around 80th in returning production last year. This year, top 15 I believe.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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Brady wouldn't look like he does now if he had come in last year
If you had said I don't think, then sure. But as written you are stating it as a fact.
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And I seriously doubt we would have set SEC scoring records with a qb that missed spring camp and had no timing with wrs just bc we had Brady.
You still don't know that though.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:39 pm to Reasonable227
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Common sense is all it takes to realize with zero continuity and zero returning production, combined with freshmen playing in skill positions, that there was a big learning curve. Now you have a tremendously improved and experienced wr Corp, a much improved and experienced OL, returning production at rb, and an experienced qb that has spent many hours developing timing with the wrs. You also have an OL coach who has had a year now to teach his scheme. Of course, asking for common sense on this board is like lol.
I completely agree.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:40 pm to Topwater Trout
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And I seriously doubt we would have set SEC scoring records with a qb that missed spring camp and had no timing with wrs just bc we had Brady.
Are those the only options...set SEC records or post the stats we ultimately did last year? What if with a viable system, we were simply more effective than we were?
keep in mind, we're running something much closer t what Burrow had run since he was a kid now, meaning that it would have been an easier learning curve than learning to uncomfortably get under center.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:41 pm to Topwater Trout
If the team could have a performance like it did against UGA last year, it could have done that consistently with different coaching.
The scheme last year was garbage. Do we really have to pretend it wasn't?
The scheme last year was garbage. Do we really have to pretend it wasn't?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:42 pm to LNCHBOX
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If you had said I don't think, then sure. But as written you are stating it as a fact.
come on man you know the difference between a fact and an opinion no matter how it's stated
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You still don't know that though.
The offense probably would have been better...but no way it would be as good as it is this year (my opinion)
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:43 pm to LNCHBOX
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The scheme last year was garbage. Do we really have to pretend it wasn't?
I seriously thought this was universally accepted at this point. i feel like I need to go start searching for posts from early November last season, because I'd have sworn we were all done with the Ensminger experiment and were expecting a new OC for the 2019 season.
Now...we're being told that 2018 was some sort of transitional year where, despite seeing nothing like this year's offense, we were working towards it...
Posted on 10/17/19 at 2:43 pm to Topwater Trout
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come on man you know the difference between a fact and an opinion no matter how it's stated
I can't help the way you write things. Regardless, just because you say it doesn't make it so.
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The offense probably would have been better...but no way it would be as good as it is this year (my opinion)
And it could have been better, we'll never know.
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