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re: Coach O is a genius for getting JOE BURROW from Ohio State.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:42 am to Todd O'Connor
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:42 am to Todd O'Connor
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How man times do i have to give him credit for that before you stop making up BS?
There is no number that will satisfy this idiot. I posted that I didn't have the words to properly give E and O the amount of credit they deserve for going out and getting Brady. Still not enough.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 9:43 am
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:43 am to Canwoodtiger
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A sick demented fantasy.
Pretty much describes your entire take...so good job on the self reflection.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:45 am to Brobocop
quote:It was luck.
How is he Lucky again? He spotted the talent and went out and got him.
Like everyone else said, Burrow was looking to transfer, and we had a spot. Here or Cincinnati.
Put it in reverse, your son is going to transfer from LSU because he can't get on the field. You find out he can come in and start at La Tech, or Ohio State. Do you really think the coach figures into the decision that much?
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:48 am to GeauxTigerTM
That I point out the failure in folks criticizing coaches for the sake of criticizing??? E gets the praise along with Brady and O. They are all a team that are pulling the strings of the most prolific offense in CFB. They all get the credit - that is how it works. For those how live in the past and hate on anything they can about E and O are wrong and have been always wrong. Sick and demented...yes it is when some one can't stand the fact they are wrong and they know it.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:48 am to GeauxTigerTM
GFYS Have a nice day.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:49 am to Canwoodtiger
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That I point out the failure in folks criticizing coaches for the sake of criticizing??? E gets the praise along with Brady and O. They are all a team that are pulling the strings of the most prolific offense in CFB. They all get the credit - that is how it works.
Who is not giving all three credit? There is a difference in saying one gets more than the others and only one gets credit.
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For those how live in the past and hate on anything they can about E and O are wrong and have been always wrong. Sick and demented...yes it is when some one can't stand the fact they are wrong and they know it.
This made google translate crash.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:50 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:Yeah? So?
he and Orgeron admitted they needed and could not do it on their own.
Meyer brought in co-OC's. Wilson to run much of the O, and Day to install the Spread/RPO. Lots of top programs do this.
Do you watch college ball?
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:50 am to GeauxTigerTM
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if you put a gun to my head and made me guess what the more important straw stirring our drink right now is, I'd shout Brady before you finished the question.
Absolutely. My point is that Brady had not been any kind of coordinator before and E can teach him a lot about organizational as well as the in and outs of the day to day responsibilities.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 9:58 am to TigerLunatik
quote:Welcome to the world's greatest TEAM game.
Absolutely. My point is that Brady had not been any kind of coordinator before and E can teach him a lot about organizational as well as the in and outs of the day to day responsibilities.
Not only did all (including Burrow) lean on E and Brady's contributions, but both would have struggled without a QB who knows more about actually running this offense than both of them.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:00 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Meyer brought in co-OC's. Wilson to run much of the O, and Day to install the Spread/RPO. Lots of top programs do this.
Except in this case, one was already here and his offense wasn't good.
I mean this is almost a science experiment
Brady is by far the biggest variable between this year and last year, and the results are drastically different.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 10:01 am
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:02 am to Buckeye Jeaux
They don't understand the concept of team. There are not many concepts they understand that does not involve negativity, self destruction and counter-productivity. It is the sickness they live with everyday of their miserable lives.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:03 am to Canwoodtiger
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They all get the credit - that is how it works.
And they all do...in differing amounts for their differing roles and for different things.
Orgeron and Ensminger get credit for admitting that what they wanted (an explosive offense that could best utilize the talent they had on hand and what they wanted LSU's offense to be in the future) was beyond their expertise...so they went out and found a guy who could do what they could not.
They get credit for admitting their shortcomings and finding the person that could fill in their knowledge and skill gaps. That's credit. The only people who fail to acknowledge that AS credit are those who likely find themselves unable to admit any shortcomings of their own, so to suggest that anyone could possible be better at a thing than another person is akin to bashing the person who's not as good!
Brady gets credit for bringing in the scheme which we all wanted...and that includes Orgeron and Ensminger...and installing it and get it up and running so quickly.
THAT was what was being discussed, so Brady was naturally the focus.
Now...do we also need to start listing EVERYONE involved, from Burrow on down under Brady who should ALSO get credit for this year's success so as not to leave anyone out? At what point can we stop...groundskeeper, towel attendant? While true it's all a "team" effort, can we not admit that there are more important members of each team, and acknowledging that should not be an issue?
You guys are KIND Of starting to sound like the kind of guys that advocate for participation trophies. It REALLY IS ok to point to a guy that's doing an especially good job and acknowledge that without having to hand out gold stars to EVERYONE else in class so as not to hurt their feelings. Well...at least it used to.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:04 am to Canwoodtiger
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They don't understand the concept of team.
The guy agreed with me and then you say I don't understand what I said. Classic.
Eta: I've also been saying that from the beginning of the Brady hire.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 10:06 am
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:04 am to Todd O'Connor
quote:In OSU's case Meyer was already there, and HIS offense, the Read/Option, was getting slobberknocked by playoff-level programs.
Except in this case, one was already here and his offense wasn't good.
Meyer did not want to switch to the Spread/Rpo... he had no choice.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:05 am to TigerLunatik
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Absolutely. My point is that Brady had not been any kind of coordinator before and E can teach him a lot about organizational as well as the in and outs of the day to day responsibilities.
Sure...I'm sure there are parts to the overall job that Ensminger is great at. After all, he's been working as a coach for well over 30 years.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:09 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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In OSU's case Meyer was already there, and HIS offense, the Read/Option, was getting slobberknocked by playoff-level programs.
What does that have to do with the Co-OC's?
Day and Wilson were hired at the same time, and we all know who was running that offense because 1 of them is HC now and one isn't.
E and Brady weren't hired at the same time. Weve seen E's offense, and it was NOT good.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 10:12 am
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:11 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:Brady is skilled at his craft. But he didn't show up one day and claim a desk. O & E sought him out and hired him.
Brady gets credit for bringing in the scheme which we all wanted...and that includes Orgeron and Ensminger...and installing it and get it up and running so quickly.
He filled a job that O and E determined needed to be done. If a marketing exec hires a programmer who implements a website that works great, that doesn't make the exec an idiot. Just means he made a good hire.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:15 am to Todd O'Connor
quote:Day fired almost all of Meyer's coaches EXCEPT Wilson. That should tell you something about Wilson's value.
Day and Wilson were hired at the same time, and we all know who was running that offense because 1 of them is HC now and one isn't.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:16 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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that doesn't make the exec an idiot. Just means he made a good hire.
In this analogy I'm assuming that you're saying that Orgeron is the idiot. Any of the resident "O bashers" say that the man is stupid here?
Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:16 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Brady is skilled at his craft. But he didn't show up one day and claim a desk. O & E sought him out and hired him.
Why do you keep rewriting exactly what I wrote and pretend it's not what I just said? I JUST fricking gave them credit for knowing what they needed and hiring him.
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He filled a job that O and E determined needed to be done. If a marketing exec hires a programmer who implements a website that works great, that doesn't make the exec an idiot. Just means he made a good hire.
Are you autistic? How in the frick are you still wanting to argue with me despite the fact that all you're doing is rewording precisely what I've just written and then pretending I was wrong!
I've said all this...just now... None of that has anything to do with people wanting to rightfully pat Brady on the head and acknowledge the great job he's done thus far. the issue is others getting bent out of shape for failing to ALSO laud both Orgeron and Ensminger at the same time.
THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN CREDIT FOR GOING TO GET HIM! Can Brady not, for one single second, stand by himself and get some praise without it being about Orgeron for one single solitary fricking second?
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