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re: Coach O is a genius for getting JOE BURROW from Ohio State.

Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:36 am to
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and the changes on defense aren't relevant to this conversation
They are relevant in that Day had no problem shitcanning Meyer's guys.

And Wilson stayed. If Wilson wasn't valued, Day would have canned him too.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:39 am to
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Still, he wasn't that highly recruited by Urban for some reason. Tom herman recruioted him and developed him.
Herman did recruit him, but left for Houston before Burrow got to Ohio State
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 10:54 am
Posted by Todd O'Connor
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:41 am to
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They are relevant in that Day had no problem shitcanning Meyer's guys.

And Wilson stayed. If Wilson wasn't valued, Day would have canned him too.



Again

1) wilson never ran a terrible offense on his own. E has
2) Day went and hired Yurcich to coach QBs, and be PGC. not a huge vote of confidence for Wilson.
3) DAY is still the one running the offense so it doesn't really matter.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:42 am to
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Still, he wasn't that highly recruited by Urban for some reason. Tom herman recruioted him and developed him.
Joe's dad relates that Herman wanted to sign Burrow. But Meyer wouldn't pull the trigger until Meyer found out that Nick Saban was coming to meet with the Burrow's in a week. Meyer signed Burrow the next day.

From Tim May video interview with Jimmy Burrow.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 10:51 am
Posted by Todd O'Connor
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:42 am to
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Still, he wasn't that highly recruited by Urban for some reason. Tom herman recruioted him and developed him.


He wasn't a nobody comign out of Ohio State

I mean we all knew his name before he transferred here
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:45 am to
So what's your point?

Give E a big raise? Fire him? Keep things as they are?

What's the point of all your rhetoric? Do you even HAVE a point?
Posted by bayou prince
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:49 am to
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Lmao. That Brady suggests. You guys are hilarious. Comical actually. But, I'm the bad guy for giving E credit too for this offense. Btw, the person most responsible for the success is burrow


Totally concur, reasonable.... He is the bottom line. We'll see next year how good Brady is when he'll probably just have an average quarterback to work with. I like Brady, but we'll see.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:50 am to
No point really, just talking. Sports yelling.

We definitely don't need to fire E at this point.

I think we need to do whatever it takes to keep Brady around. If that means demoting E so be it, but I really don't think that will be necessary.

Although someone threw out some numbers for pay raises and it hurts my heart to see E at 1.4 and Brady at 1.2
Posted by Todd O'Connor
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 10:53 am to
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Totally concur, reasonable.... He is the bottom line. We'll see next year how good Brady is when he'll probably just have an average quarterback to work with. I like Brady, but we'll see.


we saw what E did on his own with an above average QB.
Posted by bayou prince
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:04 am to
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Day fired almost all of Meyer's coaches EXCEPT Wilson. That should tell you something about Wilson's value.


That isn't correct...All the offensive staff were maintained, except Zach Smith, and they replaced him with one of the best, Brian Hartline....It was the entire defensive staff, except larry Johnson, that was let go.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:10 am to
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Totally concur, reasonable.... He is the bottom line. We'll see next year how good Brady is when he'll probably just have an average quarterback to work with. I like Brady, but we'll see.


What are the odds that two guys that found the board this month agree with each other...

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Posted by bayou prince
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:13 am to
That's right, I stand corrected... So it was Tim Beck,


Who was terrible, and then Ryan Day, who Meyer called his

best assistant ever.
Posted by bayou prince
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:16 am to
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1) wilson never ran a terrible offense on his own. E has 2) Day went and hired Yurcich to coach QBs, and be PGC. not a huge vote of confidence for Wilson. 3) DAY is still the one running the offense so it doesn't really matter.



All true Todd, except Wilson was never a quarterback coach.

He is a TE coach....His offenses wherever he has been (OKLA> and Indiana) have been extremely orolific.
Posted by bayou prince
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:20 am to
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What are the odds that two guys that found the board this month agree with each other...



What are you implying??
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:22 am to
Great. So there are five new coaches on a staff of eleven (seven new ones, technically).
Yurich, Washington, Barnes, Mattison, and Hafley are new - Hartline and Day got promotions.

My point is that Day wasn't bashful about firing established coaches. And if Day didn't value Wilson, he'd have been fired.

This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 11:25 am
Posted by Canwoodtiger
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:22 am to
No he is doing a public service...trolling the trolls. It is brilliant and actually very entertaining.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:26 am to
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Now...do we also need to start listing EVERYONE involved, from Burrow on down under Brady who should ALSO get credit for this year's success so as not to leave anyone out? At what point can we stop...groundskeeper, towel attendant? While true it's all a "team" effort, can we not admit that there are more important members of each team, and acknowledging that should not be an issue? You guys are KIND Of starting to sound like the kind of guys that advocate for participation trophies. It REALLY IS ok to point to a guy that's doing an especially good job and acknowledge that without having to hand out gold stars to EVERYONE else in class so as not to hurt their feelings. Well...at least it used to.


Apparently you missed the point so badly I don't know where to start. Deductive reasoning is just not one of your strong suites.
Posted by bayou prince
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:26 am to
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No he is doing a public service...trolling the trolls. It is brilliant and actually very entertaining.



What..and who are the "trolls". I don't pay enough attention to names on here. All I do is comment on someones post and reply to people in a non-abrasive polite way.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:29 am to
You actually completely misread what I was writing. Apparently your comprehension of logic is on an earthworm level or you are being obtuse on purpose which is fav trick for Negatigers. You don't understand team. They all get equal amount of credit and that is how it going to go down whether you like it or not.
Posted by bayou prince
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 11:30 am to
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we saw what E did on his own with an above average QB.



Yes, he isn't an offensive minded HC and IMO Ensminger is an average at best coordinator. Like I said, we will see next year how good Joe Brady really is.
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