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re: Clemson is teaching us all something.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:21 pm to luciouslou
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:21 pm to luciouslou
quote:come on now, Lou. I really hate this type of post.
Teaching us all something?
We dont play the game. Or coach it.
Yes, "us." We are emotionally invested in "our" program, usually because we grew up loving LSU football and/or attended the university, and the vast majority of players are from Louisiana. We know some of them. Went to class with some of them. It's not some sterile professional team that just happens to be HQed in a city. The university is part of the cultural fabric of the city and state.
It's ours.
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:27 pm to p&g
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If you can’t see the diff between LSUs offensive philosophy and identity now vs when miles was here I don’t know what to tell you.
I know you don't know what to tell me.
If there were any discernible differences between what Miles does and what E does, you'd be able to demonstrate it or, at the very least, explain it.
Instead? I'm often confronted with vague dismissals or, worse, no explanation at all.
Sure, the OL stunk -- the responses to the poor OL play exacerbated the issues as opposed to alleviated the issues. That's scheme. Not getting receivers wide open the way other schools often do? Scheme. The dismal failure against Alabama, when other teams put up 30+? Scheme.
At best you can say that LSU changed what they were doing, but stunk at that, too.
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He’ll even Saban acknowledged it.
There was a huge difference between what Saban saw from Matt Canada and Steve Ensminger.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:47 pm to TrevRollings29
They aren't teaching people anything that we don't already know. They just lined up and punched Alabama right in the face like it should always be from the start of things. LSU lately has been playing Alabama like they're afraid of them because this winning streak thing does cause shite like that. People need to stop with the excuses because that's all it is "excuses".
LSU's athletes are just as good as any team in the country including Bama and Clemson. shite, last nite watching the game Clemson's athlete's looked better than Alabama's, I saw multiple No. 1 picks all over the place on Clemson's side of the ball. Their athlete's did a number on Alabama's so called great athlete's, but they just played Alabama just like they would have played any team that they faced this season by just lining up and kicking their asses. LOL A lot of people probably don't realize that LSU has had a lot to do with where Clemson is today. That Peach bowl victory in Atlanta awhile back did wonders for their program when they beat LSU by 1 point. Miles and his conservative ball gave them the W, and LSU really just took it as another game and played like it, but for Clemson it meant everything in proving that they could hang with and beat the big boys. LSU has done this with a few programs, not only Clemson, but Notre Dame and others.
LSU's athletes are just as good as any team in the country including Bama and Clemson. shite, last nite watching the game Clemson's athlete's looked better than Alabama's, I saw multiple No. 1 picks all over the place on Clemson's side of the ball. Their athlete's did a number on Alabama's so called great athlete's, but they just played Alabama just like they would have played any team that they faced this season by just lining up and kicking their asses. LOL A lot of people probably don't realize that LSU has had a lot to do with where Clemson is today. That Peach bowl victory in Atlanta awhile back did wonders for their program when they beat LSU by 1 point. Miles and his conservative ball gave them the W, and LSU really just took it as another game and played like it, but for Clemson it meant everything in proving that they could hang with and beat the big boys. LSU has done this with a few programs, not only Clemson, but Notre Dame and others.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:51 pm to TrevRollings29
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They just aren't scared and their coaching staff NOR their fanbase / AD etc etc accept excuses for being below the standard.
I guess that is why after beating USCe in last game of the season he muttered "if that is not good enough then I guess I am in the wrong place..."
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:23 pm to p&g
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Not sure which is worse, this post or 50 dumbass fricks agreeing with you. I swear you people are pathetic.
So, who is to blame then, if it’s not the coaches, as to why LSU has underperformed for almost a decade?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:25 pm to TrevRollings29
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Clemson is teaching us all something.
LSU should move to the ACC.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:31 pm to Walnut
Nope
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:36 pm to RuLSU
Nah... I’m referring what he said abou Es offense LSU/Alabama week nov 2018.
Pretty sure thelittle guy wasn’t talking about matt Canada.
Pretty sure thelittle guy wasn’t talking about matt Canada.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:55 pm to sgallo3
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the only thing all these guys have in common is they had time to get it all put together the way they wanted things
So wait, any coach can be a great coach if they are given time? That time is the only thing that separates great coaches from ok coaches? quote:
there is no "blueprint" to winning national championships. each team has to do it their own way.
Yes, it's called a "program" for a reason, it's called a vision.
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Saban does it with a seemingly different OC every year and having a completely hands off approach to that side of the ball.
You really think Saban's success with multiple coaches points to him being "hands off." Or does it point to the fact that Saban knows how to hire coaches who fit his scheme, he understands his personnel completely and knows who best matches it, and then he is able to take coaches, regardless of experience or scheme, and know how to get the best out of them in relation to his vision? No? It's just time right? Even though time for Saban has an OC every 1.5 years on average....?
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Dabo does it a different way. Pete Carroll did it with a pro style offense. Urban Meyer did it his own way.
Do you want to bring the names up of guys who have won Division and Conference Titles in under 2 years on average? Dabo in Year 2. Carroll Year 2. Meyer won Coach fo the Year at Utah in his first season, and a divisional title, won the SEC in year 2, and went undefeated at OSU in Year 1.
Time is not the common denominator, because none of these hires ever needed "time." They got time because they won big games, and hardware, immediately, then they were gifted "time."
We just finished with a worse SEC record...
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:58 pm to GonadBallbarion
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Clemson is teaching us all something
I’m old, and not as sharp as you guys and live in TX so I don’t get all the insight you have, but if I am right, we played Bama 9 times since 2011 and scored 82 total points, averaging 9 points a game! If it is this consistently bad over a sustained period of time against one opponent, then there is an issue with scheme, for sure, but probably lots of other factors as well. Averaging 9 points a game over 9 games will not make you a winner over almost any team.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:02 pm to Goldrush25
The head coach/ coordinator dynamics work and Swinney let's his guys coach and doesn't meddle.
Plus not to mention, he benched a returning Sr QB who took his team to the playoffs last year for the best of the team and it paid off.
Plus not to mention, he benched a returning Sr QB who took his team to the playoffs last year for the best of the team and it paid off.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:16 pm to bencoleman
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The offensive line had serious problems this season
OLs have problems all over the game. Some coaches are able to overcome that and some aren't. Rather than blame the offensive linemen, why don't you blame the coaches whose job it is to teach and coach up those linemen?
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You, however, have an agenda
And you don't?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:48 pm to LSU Groupee
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able to overcome that and some aren't. Rather than blame the offensive linemen, why don't you blame the coaches whose job it is to teach and coach up those linemen?
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You, however, have an agenda
And you don't
I'm not blaming anybody I'm stating facts. The offensive line needed a lot of work. The tackles looked like guards playing tackle. This is a fact. It's not blaming the players, hell it's not blaming or absolving the coaches one way or another. It's a simple fact. The offense needs to upgrade at tackle. That having been said they're all young so maybe they benefit from another year in the strength and conditioning program and grow into the position.
So no it's not blaming players, it's not blaming coaches, it's what I see that LSU needs to do to become more competitive.
No I don't have an agenda. I'm a middle aged guy that watches games in my livingroom at my house. I'm afraid that I don't have the energy to attend games anymore. All of the bullshite said about me is just that bullshite.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:51 pm to bencoleman
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I'm not blaming anybody I'm stating facts.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:53 pm to TrevRollings29
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TrevRollings29
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:57 pm to TrevRollings29
Heres how you beat Bama. Be creative, line up and be aggresive. Stop with this lets run the ball between the tackles bull shite. You gotta go at them and keep them off balance. That's what last night showed me. That and you've got to hit some big plays.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 6:01 pm to bencoleman
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I don't have the energy to attend games
Sorry about that and hope you better soon, but we all come here with our preconceived ideas of what's up with LSU football.
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