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re: CEO has won the team now on to the Fans
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:17 am to TigerCliff777
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:17 am to TigerCliff777
Ok. Won over the team? You in meetings behind closed doors? The team is performing closer to what they should be. I don't know if that equals winning them over. O told the team after last season the goal for this year was the playoffs... so...? This isn't a rebuild. What does he have to do to win the fans? Dominate somebody. Score points. Run a solid offense. There's a whole list of things. Check the binder. It's all in there. He's not close yet.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 11:18 am
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Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:17 am to whitefoot
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Were you not in favor of parting ways with Miles?
Yes, with a caveat that it should be a quality hire.
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It's possible the Orgeron hire was bad
No, it's probable. There's a difference. It's possible that it wasn't a bad hire.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:17 am to Mo Jeaux
Right?
Alabama hired someone who won a championship at a division rival.
LSU hired a division rival's worst coach ever.
Alabama hired someone who won a championship at a division rival.
LSU hired a division rival's worst coach ever.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:20 am to TigerCliff777
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Bama made a change in 2006 to Nick
how did his first season go ?
Saban is probably the best coach in the history of college football. Comparisons between Saban and Orgeron are absurd. You're better off saying that every coach can have a bad loss and include Saban's losses to UAB and ULM in the list of bad/unexpected losses.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:21 am to Mo Jeaux
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No, it's probable. There's a difference. It's possible that it wasn't a bad hire.
Fair enough.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:31 am to GeauxTigerTM
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I'd call it a 9-3 season with a 7th loss in a row to BAMA, a blowout loss to AU and a loss to a fricking Sunbelt Team. Is that the kind of success fans were expecting when they insisted on firing the last guy who's average win total was about 9-3? Remember how almost NO ONE was happy and that kind of record needed to get the frick out of Baton Rouge? The incessant goal post moving has made some forget what the issues were with the previous coach and why they wanted him canned. Now we seem content on getting essentially the same or lesser results and are calling it a great job. Hells bells...if people were going to be happy with 9-3 and a Bowl Win, we had that for a decade and got rid of it. FTR, I'm not advocating a position as to whether 9-3 is good enough at LSU...just pointing out that for many years now, it CLEARLY has not been for the majority of Tiger fans. Now suddenly with some smoke and mirrors many have been conned into thinking that not only is it ok, but it's actually some amazing
Wtf are you talking about? The same results as Miles, or worse results than Miles are fine ... because dis coach tawk lak us, sha.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:37 am to TigerCliff777
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What I am saying long winded is that CEO has started the long road of winning over the fans. He already has his staff and his team now he just has to win baby!
Uh... yeah. Just win. That's all it takes to make any rational sports fan happy.
*ETA -- I still have serious doubts about CEO as the head coach.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 11:40 am
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:53 pm to whitefoot
Saban is probably the best coach in the history of college football. Comparisons between Saban and Orgeron are absurd. You're better off saying that every coach can have a bad loss and include Saban's losses to UAB and ULM in the list of bad/unexpected losses.
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So Saban the great gets a transition year but not our guy from the Bayou - sad
So of you guys are so full of shite I don't know how folk can eat with you in the same room. Your point is clear that CEO was a bad hire and he will fail at LSU. Nothing he has done in his career gave him the right to be the coach at LSU yet the AD at LSU that must be a blind fool saw something in him that he would risk his career at LSU on the Hire of Ed.
Ed nailed down Aranda and hired Canada. He nailed down our 2 new QB's coming in and brought in a freshman class that is allowing him to play more freshmen than any other coach in the nation. He has put a new system in place to make our ST's play better and that is now showing up. He is in the middle of what he says will be amazing recruiting classes with the 2019 class looking to be the best ever. After we beat Ole Miss we have a week off to heal up and get ready for the Dark Empire.
Many still want to fire CEO but I want to win these next 2 games. All things are possible in the world of faith and hope . I have both
Geaux Tigers
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So Saban the great gets a transition year but not our guy from the Bayou - sad
So of you guys are so full of shite I don't know how folk can eat with you in the same room. Your point is clear that CEO was a bad hire and he will fail at LSU. Nothing he has done in his career gave him the right to be the coach at LSU yet the AD at LSU that must be a blind fool saw something in him that he would risk his career at LSU on the Hire of Ed.
Ed nailed down Aranda and hired Canada. He nailed down our 2 new QB's coming in and brought in a freshman class that is allowing him to play more freshmen than any other coach in the nation. He has put a new system in place to make our ST's play better and that is now showing up. He is in the middle of what he says will be amazing recruiting classes with the 2019 class looking to be the best ever. After we beat Ole Miss we have a week off to heal up and get ready for the Dark Empire.
Many still want to fire CEO but I want to win these next 2 games. All things are possible in the world of faith and hope . I have both
Geaux Tigers
Posted on 10/20/17 at 12:58 pm to prplngldtigr
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Beat Alabama.
Do all that for over a decade.
When the hell did we do this???
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:00 pm to prplngldtigr
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then , eventually, a hardcore Miles man.
Apology accepted.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:29 pm to TigerCliff777
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might not be one of those guys but if you don't think for the over-all good of the program some of you clowns are pulling for Ole Miss to beat CEO to help push him out the door you would be wrong
I'm sure you were all smiles down 20-0. I'm sure you sat in that stadium til the final whistle right?
People want Ed Orgeron gone because he sucks. They don't want to see LSU lose. They don't like the model of paying a guy to not do anything.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:37 pm to TigerCliff777
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So Saban the great gets a transition year but not our guy from the Bayou - sad
Ah...I see. So it IS about being a local for you.
Yes...Saban gets a transition year, because by the time he'd been at BAMA he'd won TWO SEC titles at LSU and a National Championship. That level of success brings with it a reasonable grace period...
"Our" guy from the bayou gets no grace period because, despite his assertion to the contrary, he hasn't EARNED ONE. What in Orgeron's coaching past earns him a one year transition year so that one can assume that by year two he'll have made significant changes for the better? Other than, you know...he's from the bayou.
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Nothing he has done in his career gave him the right to be the coach at LSU yet the AD at LSU that must be a blind fool saw something in him that he would risk his career at LSU on the Hire of Ed.
Are you Knighting for Joe Alleva with this bit? Really?
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Ed nailed down Aranda and hired Canada.
He hired Canada, but dollars kept Aranda...and he was hired by Miles, who got him here in the first place, and wanted him the year before if I'm not mistaken. You think Aranda was dying to suddenly be a subordinate to a guy (from the bayou) that was just his?
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All things are possible in the world of faith and hope
Never mind...my apologies. You're clearly just fricking with us. Go on about your business...I'll leave you to it.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:37 pm to dgnx6
I'm sure you were all smiles down 20-0. I'm sure you sat in that stadium til the final whistle right?
People want Ed Orgeron gone because he sucks. They don't want to see LSU lose. They don't like the model of paying a guy to not do anything.
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what a loser
that is what you recall from the 1st half - I can only think of the 2 amazing TD's LSU pulled off to make it 23 -14
you are thinking 20-0 and I am thinking 23-14 we score a TD and we are going to win this thing
People want Ed Orgeron gone because he sucks. They don't want to see LSU lose. They don't like the model of paying a guy to not do anything.
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what a loser
that is what you recall from the 1st half - I can only think of the 2 amazing TD's LSU pulled off to make it 23 -14
you are thinking 20-0 and I am thinking 23-14 we score a TD and we are going to win this thing
Posted on 10/20/17 at 1:55 pm to timlan2057
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The same results as Miles, or worse results than Miles are fine .
Playing an ungodly amount of freshmen, in a new offensive system, etc.
Nothing happens in a vacuum. The same results as Miles when Miles had Mett, OBJ, Landry and Hill vs this roster now.
O is not who we wanted, but it's who we got. Might as well ride it out and see how he does.
One thing this fanbase agreed on, it was time for Miles to move on.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:23 pm to TigerCliff777
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So Saban the great gets a transition year but not our guy from the Bayou - sad
Saban got a transition year because he inherited a team that had averaged less than 7 wins/year for the previous decade.
He also had one hell of a resume which gave him some benefit of the doubt.
Orgeron is at best an unknown commodity so does not get afforded the same benefits.
Personally, I think this is more of a transition year than we originally thought it would be. But, you have to understand why people roll their eyes when you make comparisons between Orgeron and Saban, right?
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:44 pm to whitefoot
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Personally, I think this is more of a transition year than we orginally thought it would be.
I expected it to be a transition year based on the fact that we would be installing a new offense and we wouldn't have a competent head coach.
Can and will Orgeron learn from past mistakes? Who knows. He failed the team and the fans the entire first month of the season. The team has played like shite all year long up until the the last 6 minutes or so of the first half last week. The fans were told last year when the hire was made that we wouldn't skip a beat. That was a lie. Plain and simple.
The BS that we weren't talented that was so popular during the month of September is just that, BS. We didn't lose those games due to lack of talent, we lost due to lack of coaching.
Hopefully, The players have their pride back and will continue to play inspired ball.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:48 pm to earl keese
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We didn't lose those games due to lack of talent, we lost due to lack of coaching.
You're completely exonerating the players....do you know how dumb and short-sided that is?
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:49 pm to earl keese
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Hopefully, The players have their pride back and will continue to play inspired ball.
What does pride have to do with it? You just said it was all the coach's fault.
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:56 pm to RedTigerRulz
waiting on 1 Large Dominos pizza
I am not comparing Nick the Great to CEO but it Nick had first season issues and it is
OK why no mercy for CEO?
answer- you have already measured him and you find him beneath your standards
you could be wrong- that is all I am saying
I am not comparing Nick the Great to CEO but it Nick had first season issues and it is
OK why no mercy for CEO?
answer- you have already measured him and you find him beneath your standards
you could be wrong- that is all I am saying
Posted on 10/20/17 at 2:57 pm to RedTigerRulz
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You're completely exonerating the players...
Perhaps I worded that wrong. The players didn't play up to their potential. But my point is that we didn't lose either one of those games due to lack of talent. The lack of talent excuse was pretty popular on the rant for the first 5 weeks of the season or so.
The coaching staff didn't have the players prepared for those games. That was the reason those games were lost, in my opinion.
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