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Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:40 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:The practical realities of buyout money?
Any of the downvoters want to try to explain their position?
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:41 pm to goatmilker
Interesting phrasing…
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:42 pm to LNCHBOX
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frick us for wanting to win when LSU has invested all the money and resources necessary to do so.
You act like LSU is the only school that has done this.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 12:53 pm to rutiger
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You act like LSU is the only school that has done this.
No I don't act like that. I act like the head coach in this kind of situation isn't above criticism.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:00 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's fricking insane that this has almost twice as many downvotes as upvotes. We don't make the playoff, his arse needs to be fired immediately. shite, we don't beat Clemson and his seat should be red fricking hot. Missing a 12 team playoff twice is in no way acceptable.
Any of the downvoters want to try to explain their position?
No one is paying that buyout.
The people that keep creating this type of thread don't seem to understand that.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:04 pm to SidewalkTiger
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No one is paying that buyout.
A&M paid almost $20 million more to get rid of Fisher. If BK continues to underperform, it has to be considered. You can only let him damage the brand for so long.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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A&M paid almost $20 million more to get rid of Fisher. If BK continues to underperform, it has to be considered. You can only let him damage the brand for so long.
Yes, A&M, big difference there.
Also, Fisher was losing more games than Kelly is.
He went:
8-4
5-7
6-4
So even if we follow the same exact model, BK still has at least two more seasons.
Also, 8-4 isn't really "damaging the brand." LSU is historically an 8-4 or 9-3 program most seasons with a good year every 4-5 seasons.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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You can only let him damage the brand for so long.
How is the LSU brand damaged at the moment? The only thing that seems damaged are your own personal feelings & those don't matter much in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:12 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Also, 8-4 isn't really "damaging the brand." LSU is historically an 8-4 or 9-3 program most seasons with a good year every 4-5 seasons.
We aren't paying him to perform at this level
Jimbo performed at A&M's historical level and was rightly sent packing.
Missing a 12 team playoff in consecutive years is not what we are paying CBK to do. End of story. If we lose to Clemson and don't make the playoff, how do you justify keeping him? He will have gotten worse every year that he's been here.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:13 pm to BigBrod81
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How is the LSU brand damaged at the moment?
Ok, if we don't consider LSU a championship level program, our brand is just fine.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:15 pm to LNCHBOX
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We aren't paying him to perform at this level
Look at the coaches paid in and around his bracket, who is performing better?
Some of you don't seem to understand that $9.5 mil a year isn't top dollar any longer.
Drinkwitz at Mizzou and Kiffin are basically making $9 mil per, DeBoer makes more and had the same record.
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Jimbo performed at A&M's historical level and was rightly sent packing.
Meh, he went 5-7 one season and there was a lot of toxicity within the locker room there. Things were only getting worse there.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:19 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Look at the coaches paid in and around his bracket, who is performing better?
Some of you don't seem to understand that $9.5 mil a year isn't top dollar any longer.
Drinkwitz at Mizzou and Kiffin are basically making $9 mil per, DeBoer makes more and had the same record.
All this tells me is that winning championships isn't important to you.
ETA And CBK's salary is top 10 highest, so frick yea it's top dollar. Why are we not expecting top dollar results?
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:34 pm to Tigerstark
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Your overall point is valid but Nuss is not what BK wants. If you had said an experienced talented QB fine. But BK has shown throughout his history he wants a dual thread qb. Sometimes they can be better on the passing side and less of a threat to run. But he has always preferred a qb who can run. Several times he’s had a two qb system because he had a passer that wasn’t a good enough runner so he got the runner into the game.
If only he could get Nuss to run. Nuss has the speed to be a capable runner but for some reason he refuses to take off. I rolled my eyes every time they would run a read option. It's not hard for a defense to play a read option when the only read the QB has ever made on the play is to hand it off.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:34 pm to charliemurphy69
The mismanagement of the roster under O made a Natty run in 2023 impossible. His last 3 classes had unbelievable attrition. There was a reason all our standouts on defense that year were very young players.
Next year, outside of Nuss going down, there are no excuses..... the portal gets are amazing and the last 3 classes are all his.
Next year, outside of Nuss going down, there are no excuses..... the portal gets are amazing and the last 3 classes are all his.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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His contract is essentially guaranteed.
Unless we find him in bed with a dead girl or a live boy...
Posted on 1/14/25 at 1:46 pm to Harry Boutte
I am one to say this year was just OK as I thought we were better than UF USC etc.
I do think we will be in the CFP next year and top 6 team at end of year. Hope springs eternal
I do think we will be in the CFP next year and top 6 team at end of year. Hope springs eternal
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:40 pm to LNCHBOX
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Ok, if we don't consider LSU a championship level program, our brand is just fine.
The status of the LSU brand isn't solely determined by championships. While championships most certainly elevate the brand, it isn't the only determining factor. Just because you believe so in your flawed way of thinking, doesn't make it true.
LSU is only 5 years removed from a National Title in which that squad is revered as one of the greatest college football teams of all time. There's been two Heisman winners in that same time frame. The Tigers have some of the top NFL players in Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Jayden Daniels, Malik Nabers & Brian Thomas Jr representing the university. Currently has the #7 2025 recruiting class & #1 2025 portal class. The LSU brand is alive & thriving. The LSU brand doesn’t equal Brian Kelly's legacy which you seem to be confusing.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:43 pm to BigBrod81
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Just because you believe so in your flawed way of thinking, doesn't make it true.
We don't have to win every year. I've never once claimed as such. But we keep losing games we shouldn't and not finishing the year ranked, let alone in the 12 team playoff and LSU will be right back to mediocrity. We've run off coaches with more success.
Posted on 1/14/25 at 2:44 pm to Mats86
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Yes, clearly he has outsmarted himself by attempting to assemble the best roster he can get
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