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re: Canada's possible departure and it's impact on the offense

Posted on 11/28/17 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 1:58 pm to
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O will have to go out and find another coordinator.
Let's hope he does "go out" to do this

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That puts our offense in a position to have to learn a new scheme.
Meh. It sucks, but it happens.

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And if that coordinator leaves? Rinse and repeat.
Well, I mean........that's ALWAYS the case. No matter who the HC is. Good offensive coordinators are in demand as HCs.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 1:59 pm to
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CaptainPanic

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so it will fulfill his agenda of burning this program down to the ground

Checks out
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:00 pm to
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Well, I mean........that's ALWAYS the case. No matter who the HC is. Good offensive coordinators are in demand as HCs.



Love him or hate him, miles always ran a similar offense with each OC.

Saban has done the same.

Meyer has done the same.

Stoops did the same.

Etc

Etc
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Do you know what hyperbole is?


Yeah, it's when you make up complete and utter bullshite and then when you get called on it you ask someone if they know what hyperbole is.

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My point is that, from my recollection, he's said he wants either:
-Pro-style like early-mid 2000s USC
-A modern spread
-Whatever the best available OC wants to run


All of them sound good to me after what LSU had run the previous 12 years. I can accept any of the above.

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Do you not see how this is problematic?


Every program loses coordinators and have to adjust to a new OC. It's not something new and usually doesn't hurt programs as much as you would think.

In Kiffin's first year at Bama they lost in the semi-final to Ohio State by 7 points. The next year they won the championship.

If that's bad. I want a lot of it.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:03 pm to
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Saban has a distinct philosophy on both sides of the ball. He's had OCs come and go, but has always had the same offense pretty much.


bullshite. Read the internet about when Bama hired Kiffin. Saban knew he needed to change. Something the last LSU coach wouldn't do.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:04 pm to
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bullshite. Read the internet about when Bama hired Kiffin. Saban knew he needed to change. Something the last LSU coach wouldn't do.


Adjustments =/= complete change of offensive philosophy. Kiffen brought more down field passes, but they were still a bruising run game first and foremost.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:04 pm to
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Every program loses coordinators and have to adjust to a new OC. It's not something new and usually doesn't hurt programs as much as you would think.

But great programs have a leader that has an identity in mind when he looks for his next OC who will help him successfully implement that identity allowing continuity in recruiting and off-season preparation. They don't just say "frick it" and shift offensive philosophies as the wind blows.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:05 pm to
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bullshite. Read the internet about when Bama hired Kiffin. Saban knew he needed to change.

...and he did. And he maintained the shift in offensive identity this year with a new OC. C'mon man.
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10713 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:06 pm to
Sure, Saban adapted when he needed to. But change every time there’s a new coordinator? Nah that’s not a Saban trademark.

Saban interfering with the offense = Telling Kiffin to stop trying to run cute crap when running between the tackles is averaging 7-8 yards.

Orgeron interfering with the offense = LSU losing to Troy.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:11 pm to
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I am, dingleberry. Try not to be such an emotional girl when having discussions.


The hell you are. Who the "F" is Jacob Parks?
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TH03:Yep. And if we wised up and pulled Jacob parks, our game is completely different. They had 3 interceptions on balls where the receiver was open and parks overthrew them right into the defenders hands.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=73724768&s=2&p=73723950#73724768

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TH03:I still can't believe we lost to that shite team. fricking Jacob parks.

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=73724712&s=2&p=73721152#73724712

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TH03:Our game still makes me mad. Should've been much closer or an Iowa State win with the right QB

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=73725366&s=2&p=73721152#73725366

Sounds like you are a Tea-sip with a kissing-bandit infatuation.

You are not an LSU fan. Go away
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:12 pm to
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Adjustments =/= complete change of offensive philosophy. Kiffen brought more down field passes, but they were still a bruising run game first and foremost.

Other than guessing, is there some reason to think that O won't end up hiring OCs who share at least vaguely similar philosophies going forward?

I think it's fair to say that he doesn't seem happy with the Canada style.

But, that doesn't mean he won't choose to stick true to a particular form going forward.

I mean, he might not. But, he might.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:13 pm to
Holy crap what a pathetic post

I've been an LSU fan since birth. I have family playing on the Iowa State team, hence why I support them too.

fricking jabroni. You must have really thought you got me with that pathetic post
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:13 pm to
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But great programs have a leader that has an identity in mind when he looks for his next OC who will help him successfully implement that identity allowing continuity in recruiting and off-season preparation. They don't just say "frick it" and shift offensive philosophies as the wind blows.


You do realize Nick Saban hired Lane Kiffin don't you?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27825 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:14 pm to
Jacob Parks was the Iowa State QB. I know you don’t follow college football outside of LSU, so I just wanted to clarify for you.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:14 pm to
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Holy crap what a pathetic post


You can say that about all Tiger Ree posts. Dude is on the Coach O payroll. Only way to describe it.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:15 pm to
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Other than guessing, is there some reason to think that O won't end up hiring OCs who share at least vaguely similar philosophies going forward?



He's never been a coordinator on either side of the ball and his history is a d line coach. What is there to tell us he has an offensive preference or identity?

I'm just skeptical here.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22729 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:15 pm to
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pathetic post


A Tiger Ree hallmark.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41292 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:15 pm to
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I know you don’t follow college football outside of Coach O, so I just wanted to clarify for you.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27825 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Other than guessing, is there some reason to think that O won't end up hiring OCs who share at least vaguely similar philosophies going forward?

He said he was going to hire the best. What if the best doesn’t fit whatever his style is on that particular day?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24545 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 2:18 pm to
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Jacob Parks was the Iowa State QB.


Well that's why I never heard of him like the other poser who seems upset he plays for his team.
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