Started By
Message

Canada wasn't as good as we thought and Ensminger won't be as bad as we think

Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:34 am
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:34 am
there's a lot of "groupthink" on this board and, in this case, I think the "wide open spread attack people" and the "advanced pro style people" are actually in concert(for a change).

I was definitely for giving Canada another year but it appears he screwed the pooch with his boss by orchestrating a terrible start and then commiting some form of insubordination by going over O's head with his complaints. my hopes for a non predictable offense have been dashed.

my second largest concern is QB development. no major team has suffered from lack of top QB play than LSU. it certainly killed Miles and that killed butter teeth at Florida also. it also looks like we will not have a QB coach, once again, so I assume it's going to be Ensminger. I admit to not knowing his capabilities in that area.

what will be the identify of Steve's offense? I don't know but have to assume it will be pro-style similar to what Georgia runs.

if LSU can continue to make strides with upgrading our OL and WR position and with an accurate QB like Brennan we should be able to field a pretty good offense. ANY type of offense can be shut down; LSU has shut down QB dominated spread attacks a number of times; it really depends on player execution.

all great defenses can scheme to stop the run game. LSU will never move the program up w/o developing a strong passing attack. Ensminger can't be worse than what we've had.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:38 am to
Expectations are quickly eroding away. We went from “hiring the very best coordinators” to hired coordinators that “won’t be as bad as we think.”
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:40 am to
Nah Canada was great

O is what the French call les incompenent
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48929 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:42 am to
quote:

LSU GrandDad


good luck Mr. Sullivan
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48929 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Ensminger can't be worse than what we've had.


lulz but he is what we have had
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22430 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:46 am to
Everytime someone comes in here defending this shite it's someone named "grandad" or "namvet" or "metbenjaminfranklin" or some shite.
Posted by BlindTiger7
Houston
Member since Sep 2016
2683 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Canada wasn't as good as we thought and Ensminger won't be as bad as we think


I don't think Ensminger will be horrible, but I think he's only good enough to win us the games we should win and not put us in position to win against better teams.

We will continue the 7-5 & 8-4 seasons until we get an offensive guru to be our OC.

Posted by Retlaw
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Sep 2013
1253 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:47 am to
Rationalization is where you are at currently. I get it, we know what we have in Steve E.

That’s the problem. He won’t be the worst, but he won’t be in the upper echelon of coordinators either, which is the way this Ed O HC model was sold to the fan base - not that we all bought it.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 7:50 am
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:47 am to
Canada / O couldn’t get LSU to a championship.

O / Ensminger and Sullivan won’t either
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:49 am to
I agree with what you said but my real problem with this is optics. Ensminger may be as good an OC as any one, which I believe he is a very good oc, but it does nothing to quiet the angry mob.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:49 am to
quote:

les incompenent


no need to bring miles into this
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10499 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:50 am to
You are just going to defend Coach O to the bitter end aren't you? When we go 7-5 this year you, Tiger Ree, and the other Sunshine Pumpers can all go ban yourself.
Posted by BrushyCreekCajun
N-LA
Member since Nov 2016
294 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Everytime someone comes in here defending this shite it's someone named "grandad" or "namvet" or "metbenjaminfranklin" or some shite.


you probably thought last nights half time performance was one of the greatest performances of all time.

by all time, I mean the 12 years you've been alive
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31896 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:51 am to
Gramps it’s sad that you are this dedicated to mediocrity. I suggest you follow an organization that know how to win like the Astros and study how well their organization is run and commits to a winning product and then apply your findings to LSU and see how they match up
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:51 am to
Maybe coach o just says that nothing that he does is going to satisfy them so why even attempt to cater to them. I just feel that is the wrong approach. Good PR is important
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7581 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Canada wasn't as good as we thought

Probably so. His numbers for this season support this.

quote:

Ensminger won't be as bad as we think


Hopefully not.

BUT!, 0 is still HC and he is already sticking his nose in the offence.... you know, the area he specializes in. So with this hire, does SE have full and total decision making on play calling?

0 is filling all his positions with his friends and not getting the best out there the fans were sold on just one year ago.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68669 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:52 am to
quote:

my second largest concern is QB development. no major team has suffered from lack of top QB play than LSU.


This is so fricking false. In a 10 year stretch, LSU had 3qbs start in the NFL.

Every major program has had shite QB play in that time frame. Every single fricking one.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:55 am to
quote:


Canada wasn't as good as we thought and Ensminger won't be as bad as we think


I didn't think Canada was that great.

Hiring coach E though is spectacularly stupid

There is no defending it. I mean I suppose I can't blame you for trying to put a bow on this turd but it's a turd and it's the beginning of the end for Coach O

Beyond the choice what this whole episode demonstrates clearly is that Coach O has no fricking idea how to run a program

And that is really the fundamental problem
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:56 am to
He may be in the upper echelon of OC's from an ability point of view but that isn't the issue
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/9/18 at 7:57 am to
quote:

Ensminger can't be worse than what we've had.


The fact that you wrote that sentence pretty much defiance the current state of the program

Sure he sucks but it could have been worse. Please
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 5Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram