Started By
Message

re: Canada to maryland

Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:01 am to
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13078 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:01 am to
So, why didn't O hire Ensminger last year, instead of Canada?
And do you contend that Canada's movement from one program to another was only discovered by O after the hire? How much due diligence did O do on Canada?
You really cannot get around these issues with the pretext that Ensminger was the guy all along...
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6897 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Every head coach is going to have input

but he promised . . .

IIRC, O questioned why the 3rd string RB fumbled on the first play of the game. Sounds like somebody else was getting to call the shots. And Brennan played in both losses. Looks like a little "meddling" may have been needed.
Ranters wanted Ed to get in the stands and eat popcorn, and then pay the consequences if it didn't work out.

I'm not for or against O, but I'm for success. Doesn't do much good to bash him from every angle - if that would work, he'd have quit by now.
This post was edited on 1/23/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7441 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:03 am to
Durkin will build Maryland into a powerhouse. Wouldn't be funny if we hired Durkin and he brought Canada with him? Not laugh out loud humor funny but sad, the rope broke when I tried suicide funny.
Posted by Dcurry80
Alabama
Member since May 2011
297 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:05 am to
He was hired to do a job and paid a lot of money to do it. Good managers know you don’t hire chess players and turn them into chess pieces.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:06 am to
Aranda is the one who wanted O to hire Ensminger, in the first place. You know I know it's hard for you lunatics to believe it because you morons are dumb enough to want to believe that O isn't a very smart and very experienced person, but nonetheless, O, Aranda, and Ensminger are all very close friends and confide in each other all the time.

After all, they work together every day for the same damn goal. Which is why Aranda didn't go anywhere when he had the perfect opportunity.

Indeed, if Aranda viewed coach O the same way you dumb lunatics view him, he would have jumped ship the minute A&M went after him.

In any event, that's what I have been told by someone who knows and hasn't been wrong yet.
Posted by tigerborderjumper
Member since Sep 2014
2656 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:07 am to
quote:

If O and Aranda had already decided even before Canada was fired that they would make Ensminger the next OC, then why have a damn search, you dummy?

Indeed, in the press conference immediately following the A&M game O said his next OC would be Steve Ensminger. Didn't you believe him? You thought he was a liar. He said what he was going to do and did what he said he would do. Yet you fault him for not having a search? Give me a freaking break! What planet do you moonbats live on?


Wow! How typical. If somebody doesn't agree with your opinion, YOU, as usual start attacking and calling names. It kinda seems like a Ponamsky antifa tactic. O didn't lie to the entire fan base. He scammed them.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13078 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:09 am to
So O didn't do any due diligence on Canada and takes no responsibility for the hire. I thought he was the Head Coach, doing what Head Coaches do...
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:10 am to
quote:

This is not a defense of Orgeron, but if you can't see Canada has a problem sticking around that has nothing to do with Orgeron, I'm not sure you can look at this situation objectively.



Orgeron said he would hire the best coordinators possible and let them coach.

His only coordinator hire was Canada, who he didn’t properly vet, interviewed only once, and gave him a guaranteed contract of $4.5 million.

Orgeron publicly admitted to meddling in the offense, telling Canada not to run tempo, and told him to take away the shifts.

The result was a loss to Troy, Alleva being called in to play babysitter, and O admitting he wouldn’t meddle with Canada’s offense any more than he already had.

Canada might be a complete a-hole, he might not play well with others, and he might have hated Orgeron. But he was hand picked by Orgeron. The fact that this didn’t work out falls entirely on his shoulders. Miles didn’t get a pass for his inability to hire or retain a competent Offensive Coordinator, and neither should O.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7441 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Aranda is the one who wanted O to hire Ensminger, in the first place.


Translation: O is jealous of all the Aranda love. We are prepping the ground work to throw Aranda under the bus should Ensminger fail. A head coach let's a DC decide who the OC is??? Ha, ha, ha, ha
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Because you are about to hire Steve fricking Ensminger as your OC...you go out and look for someone better you fricking moron, not just promote the TE coach who you had to pretty much make him take the job and then try to pass it off like you just hired the best offensive mind in college football.


As I said you dumb retard, O and Aranda had already made up their minds that Ensminger was going to be the next OC at LSU. Indeed, that’s why O said Ensminger was going to be the next OC when asked during that press conference following the A&M game. In fact, a lot of people say it was Ensminger who called the plays in that A&M game and that was by far LSU’s best offensive outing of the season. Thus, if you are not going to hire anyone else other than Ensminger, then why even have a freaking search, you dumb retard?

Furthermore, Aranda says Ensminger is a better play caller than Canada is, and he ought to know since he schemed against the both of them every day in practice the past two years. Meanwhile, O trusts Ensminger immensely.

Hence, I could care less what a moronic retard like you says and believes about Ensminger since coach O and Aranda both believe Ensminger is the best coordinator available. Thus, forgive me if I’m not retarded enough like you are to question their judgment.

Moreover, nobody cares if you don’t like Steve Ensminger, but I happen to know him personally and he is one of the best human beings I have ever known in my lifetime.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
88721 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Hence, I could care less what
quote:

Moreover, nobody cares if you don’t like Steve Ensminger


Your giant walls of text disagree.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:30 am to
quote:

So O didn't do any due diligence on Canada and takes no responsibility for the hire. I thought he was the Head Coach, doing what Head Coaches do...


Sue him, sue him, you dumb nitwit. O should have a crystal ball in his office and know how to use it! Next time Alleva better hire a head coach that can predict the future.

Now, what else are you going to fault O for today you nitwit?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:41 am to
quote:


I love how this is the new narrative. ARANDA wants Ensminger!!


It is funny, isn't it?

Show of hands...who here thinks that when Aranda gets his first shot as a head coach (be it here at LSU in 2019 or elsewhere) his first call to be his OC is going to be to Steve Ensminger?

Yeah...me either.
Posted by releauxded2469
Boise, ID
Member since Jan 2015
1959 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:41 am to
quote:

It's like DALSU wrote that garbage himself. Which is why I asked him to provide a link


Calm your tits, cowboy.

LINK
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23040 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:44 am to
Why is what Aranda may have wanted being brought up, anyway?

He's a coordinator also. He's free to move on if he likes, for more pay (like he almost did with A&M), or for a better job (the way Bama's past DC's now have SEC head jobs).

Staff input is one thing, but if Orgeron is the head guy, he's the one who is responsible for the decision.

And my take on any of what Aranda "wanted" is this- if he said anything (if asked), he probably was smart enough to say "yeah, I can work with _____". Nobody with any sense is going to want to campaign against anyone else, that makes THEM the troublemaker.
Posted by releauxded2469
Boise, ID
Member since Jan 2015
1959 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Why is what Aranda may have wanted being brought up, anyway? He's a coordinator also.


Dunno. Could have something to do with that whole “Associate Head Coach” title he also holds.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:48 am to
quote:

 infuriates me that a guy who has had 6 OC jobs in 10 years


Pure ignorance.

So he should never have taken promotions for more money or left a team when the head coach and staff went to another school? He was fired from NC State. I guess LSU fans forget why now. He was fired from LSU because Orgeron wouldnt let him do his job while at the same time breaking a promise to not meddle.

LSU fricked up. Canada gets 1.7 million AND his nice salary to Maryland. Canada will make Aranda money next year as a result. LSU fired without cause due to a meathead HC.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:52 am to
quote:

After all, they work together every day for the same damn goal. Which is why Aranda didn't go anywhere when he had the perfect opportunity.



I’m sure the $10 million in guaranteed money has nothing to do with it.

You Orgeron fans are delusional.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86474 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Canada was fired because he became a cancer on the coaching staff. That's the reason.


Ed Orgeron hired him. So he failed in his first big hire. Now he's relying on Les' guys to run the defense and offense.

Seriously, you cant defend this unless you are Derek or a family member. How are we in a better position than in 2015?
Posted by DALSU
Miami
Member since Jun 2014
1697 posts
Posted on 1/23/18 at 11:00 am to
Coach O bears responsibility he hired Canada, hand picked,he said he was looking for the best offensive coordinator in the country.


Canada was here less than a year and paid a lot of money. coach o has been dealing with shite show issues since his ole miss days. Nothing has changed.



Jump to page
Page 1 2 3 4 5 ... 12
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 3 of 12Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram