re: Can we all at last agree on this?

Correct all facts!!! Unfortunately u will catch some heat about this. I love Ed O but he doesn’t specialize in either offense or defense. Great motivator and recruiter that’s all fine and dandy but where it counts most is the X & O’s. It has showed these first 3 games of the season!!

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very few coaches are involved

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You’re an idiot. Orgeron doing what he does is not the norm.

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That’s the difference between him and Orgeron.

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Idk man. I may be a homer, but I feel like Orgeron did his job perfectly last year. So the idea that he’s not capable is beyond moronic.

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Instead of saying, “ok you guys figure it out and let me know what the plan is”, like Orgeron does.

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Did you actually witness this or are you just making it up?

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You’re an idiot. Orgeron doing what he does is not the norm.

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You have posted tons of dumb shite. Perhaps you should log out.

So lets say they give your call.

Who are you hiring to replace him?

Most of this board wanted Jimbo or Tom Herman last time

This argument has always seemed dumb to me.

Do you expect a billing and accounting specialist at Exxon to be able to repair blow out preventers?

He's the head coach. He's expected to know how to coach the guys that run the offense and defense. He manages coaches and staff.

By this argument an offensive coordinator can't be a head coach because he can't run the defense. And vice versa.

With this metric no one would be qualified. You'd have to born a head coach or coach for 85 years (both sides of the ball) to be named head coach. Might as well make it hereditary like some sort of monarchy.

Look, in regards to the offense it is getting done. And there are more replacements on that side, both coaches and players, than the defense. Orgeron recruited them, Orgeron hired them. So the capability is there and if your argument had any merit at all, that in of itself negates it.

The defense is absolutely not getting it done. That is also on Orgeron. But the idea that only if one side fails does it matter if Orgeron hadn't been a coordinator now comes into play (and if successful it retreats to a dark corner) is retarded.

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By all means, feel free to list specific examples of Orgeron doing any of those things with success.

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Aside from recruiting, I for one can’t give you specifics, but I do know of numerous people that are high up in certain companies that can’t do the important stuff as well as the people hired/paid to do that specific job. Some can’t do it at all. The important thing is to hire good people around you. Once you’re unable to do that, it’s time to move on. O has shown once before he’s capable of good hires so I’m willing to wait and see before bashing him.

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Bo and Ensminger will ultimately be Ed’s downfall.

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Seen others say this same thing and I get WHY people are saying it, but it's making a judgment on something that hasn't happened yet. If things don't improve and O' doesn't make the tough call to make the changes he needs to make in the off-season and this drags on, then yes. What happens if he goes out and brings in the next Aranda and the next Brady? What happens if what they have now gets fixed and they go on an incredible run? Failure and collapse are not imminent. That is just one possible direction this could go and it's too early to speculate.