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re: Can JJ take us to the next level this year?
Posted on 8/12/09 at 10:44 am to tbrig3211
Posted on 8/12/09 at 10:44 am to tbrig3211
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JJ will be a big factor in this teams return to a double digit win season in 09'. He seems to have all the intangibles that qbs need to succeed on the college level. The team has full confidence in him as a leader and this will translate to better overall play from the offense on game day.
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Posted on 8/12/09 at 11:19 am to TigerWilson88
Troy and Auburn were terrible 
Posted on 8/12/09 at 11:33 am to TigerWilson88
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JL had 4 quarters where he looked like Joe Montana against Auburn and Troy
Posted on 8/12/09 at 11:33 am to dukke v
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If he would have played well in the 1st place they wouldn't have been down by 30!!!! AND Au was garbage last year. LSU was lucky to even win that game.
I'm so sick of the same little crew of fricking losers banging on JL and blaming him for everything that went wrong last season. Now you want to blame him for the defense giving way too many points against Troy. Troy opened the game with TWO long TD drives of 80 yards or more on their first two possessions and followed that up with a field goal drive on their fourth possession. LSU was down 17-3 before Lee threw a pick-6 on a tipped ball. Jefferson was 1-6 throwing in the first half when he got a chance to be the spark off the bench. If LSU was going to win this game, it was going to be on the arm of Lee. Troy got the ball first in the second half and went on another 80 yard drive for a TD and a 31-3 lead before LSU ever touched the ball. Lee came out in the second half and completed 18-26(69%)for 205 yards and a TD while leading LSU to largest come from behind win in the history of LSU football. That is very Montana-esque. The defense gave up 4 scoring drives, 3 of which were 80 yards or more and for TD's, in this game and yet you want to blame Lee for the 7 points Troy scored on a tipped ball interception late in the first half as the reason we were getting smoked by Troy. You are about as clueless as the fools on this board that think Lee will be the 4th string QB this year.
Posted on 8/12/09 at 11:36 am to DeltaDoc
We are going to have to do this year what we should have done last year which is to run the ball down the throats of the defense and give the passing game a chance by not constantly having third and long. Last year I thought Crowton did a pretty lousy job with the QB's. He threw too much and he threw when the running game was running over defenses. Example, 4th quarter of the Bama game. Bama's defense was gassed and Scott and Williams were running over them. But instead, Crowton starts throwing the ball like into the endzone in the overtime which was sorely not needed at the time because Scott would have just steamrolled into the endzone. For this offense to be better this year, Crowton has to be better this year.
Posted on 8/12/09 at 11:38 am to XbengalTiger
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That is very Montana-esque.
it was TROY st!
Posted on 8/12/09 at 11:48 am to TheDoc
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it was TROY
Who has won their conference the last three years and beat some ranked teams along the way. They are one of the more talented and better coached teams of the mid majors.
Posted on 8/12/09 at 11:51 am to XbengalTiger
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Who has won their conference the last three years and beat some ranked teams along the way. They are one of the more talented and better coached teams of the mid majors.
That still is no excuse. Troy had no business doing what they did. JL play valiantly but he shouldnt of had to. And Troy a well coached team? That was one of the worst coached games I have ever seen on both sides of the ball for both teams.
Posted on 8/12/09 at 11:57 am to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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That still is no excuse. Troy had no business doing what they did. JL play valiantly but he shouldnt of had to. And Troy a well coached team? That was one of the worst coached games I have ever seen on both sides of the ball for both teams.
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if troy could have ran the ball just a LITTLE, they'd have won that game for sure.
they kept throwing! unreal! all the incomplete passes kept stopping the clock.
LSU scored (thankfully) and pulled out a W.
but what if troy would have beaten LSU last year?
I think there would be a ton more pissed off fans than there are now.
Posted on 8/12/09 at 12:12 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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That still is no excuse. Troy had no business doing what they did.
I agree but what they did was go up and down the field on our defense while loading up the box to stop our running game and building a huge lead. Lee had nothing to do with our defense giving up three 80+ yard TD drives. Neither JL or JJ was effective throwing the ball in the first half becasue we were pretty much only throwing on obvious passing downs and trying to run right at their D which was set up to take away the run. In the first half JJ was 1-6 passing and JL was 2-8 passing.
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And Troy a well coached team?
Yes, they are a well coached team. They have not won their conference three years running by being a bad coached team. They had a good game plan and completely took away our running game in the first half while attacking our defense with a quick drop passing attack. Our coaching staff made the adjustments and and we turned it around in the second half but that does not change the fact that the Troy coaching staff had a great game plan that was run with percision in the first half. In the end the combination of good adjustments and better talent by LSU won out but the Troy coaches had that team in a position to win the game. That is good coaching.
Posted on 8/12/09 at 12:19 pm to TigerWilson88
JJ will take us to the next level, I feel we just have to put him in situations were he can excel. JJ is our guy so lets ride to the promise land
Posted on 8/12/09 at 12:19 pm to TheDoc
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if troy could have ran the ball just a LITTLE, they'd have won that game for sure.
they kept throwing! unreal! all the incomplete passes kept stopping the clock.
That's how they built their lead. That was their gameplan. They were playing to win. The short drop passing game was their running game. If they keep completing those passes, the clock keeps running and they win. You can play the what-if game all day. Their coaches were doing what they had practiced all week and what had worked the entire first half. They were showing faith in their players and the pressure was too much once the LSU offense got rolling.
Posted on 8/12/09 at 12:20 pm to XbengalTiger
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I agree but what they did was go up and down the field on our defense while loading up the box to stop our running game and building a huge lead. Lee had nothing to do with our defense giving up three 80+ yard TD drives. Neither JL or JJ was effective throwing the ball in the first half becasue we were pretty much only throwing on obvious passing downs and trying to run right at their D which was set up to take away the run. In the first half JJ was 1-6 passing and JL was 2-8 passing.
He coulda kept LSU drives alive, not saying he shoulda but he couldve done that.
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Yes, they are a well coached team. They have not won their conference three years running by being a bad coached team.
Yea they do. Troy threw the ball 70+ times that game when they had a halftime lead of around I think 28-3 or something, I try to forget I dont really remeber. To keep throwing the ball is poor play calling which is decided by the coaches. Its porr coaching. Troy's poor coaching is the only reason we won that game. And they can get away with that type of coaching and win their conference cause they are in the sunbelt
Posted on 8/12/09 at 12:23 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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Troy's poor coaching is the only reason we won that game. And they can get away with that type of coaching and win their conference cause they are in the sunbelt
this
Posted on 8/12/09 at 12:30 pm to LSUBCSCHAMPS11
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Yea they do. Troy threw the ball 70+ times that game when they had a halftime lead of around I think 28-3 or something, I try to forget I dont really remeber. To keep throwing the ball is poor play calling which is decided by the coaches
It was a calculated risk. Troy didn't matchup up with LSU to be able to run the ball. Their short passing game was how they got the ball to their playmakers in space and was their only shot at winning the game. We took the lead with about 4 minutes left in the game. Them going 3 and out running the ball would have made little difference of the outcome of the game. Their best chance to win was to keep running their offense.
Posted on 8/12/09 at 12:39 pm to TigerWilson88
Every LSU fan is traumatized because how badly Jarrett Lee's year turned out. That was the absolute worst of circumstances that could of happened. So because of that a lot of us are skeptical that the same nightmare could happen with Jefferson.
He'll have growing pains, but I do think he will make some great plays in games that'll have us fans saying, "Wow. We have a QB for the future."
He'll have growing pains, but I do think he will make some great plays in games that'll have us fans saying, "Wow. We have a QB for the future."
This post was edited on 8/12/09 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 8/12/09 at 12:55 pm to XbengalTiger
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It was a calculated risk. Troy didn't matchup up with LSU to be able to run the ball. Their short passing game was how they got the ball to their playmakers in space and was their only shot at winning the game. We took the lead with about 4 minutes left in the game. Them going 3 and out running the ball would have made little difference of the outcome of the game. Their best chance to win was to keep running their offense.
well if they had run the ball instead of passing it we were down 31-3 so they couldve milked an extra 3 minutes off the clock by running and going 3 and out instead of passing
Posted on 8/12/09 at 1:07 pm to TigerWilson88
the first thing JJ has to prove to me is that he can lead LSU to back to back wins, then prove he can consistently complete a high % of passes (something he is still struggling with according to some), then prove he can handle some adversity
I want to see how he reacts when he fricks up and fans are yelling for RS, I want to see how he reacts when people are not singing his praises after a loss to a bad arkansas team on the road when he struggled with his accuracy all day
I'm not sure what the next level is for LSU or JJ right now, but I just want to win the west and get to within 1 game of playing in another BCS game
I want to see how he reacts when he fricks up and fans are yelling for RS, I want to see how he reacts when people are not singing his praises after a loss to a bad arkansas team on the road when he struggled with his accuracy all day
I'm not sure what the next level is for LSU or JJ right now, but I just want to win the west and get to within 1 game of playing in another BCS game
Posted on 8/12/09 at 1:08 pm to Akit1
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a lot of us are skeptical that the same nightmare could happen with Jefferson.
where was this skepticism at the end of last year?
there were VERY few people on here who were still "skeptical" of JJ after the ole miss game, even fewer after the arkansas game and still even fewer after the ga Tech game
at least in the Ga Tech game he actually showed something worhty of all the praise he had been getting
Posted on 8/12/09 at 1:11 pm to LSUfan4444
and just so you all know....LSU beat Auburn and Troy in spite of Lee, but JJ had nothing to do with the loss against Arkansas...even thought he was 9/21
this is the rant...pay attention people
this is the rant...pay attention people
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