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re: Cam on noticeable changes this year
Posted on 4/2/16 at 3:21 pm to cas4t
Posted on 4/2/16 at 3:21 pm to cas4t
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Our walk-throughs at one time were 65-70 percent run and 30-35 percent pass.
So a lot of it is the execution?
"It is. The thing I like about it when I hear our players talk, our players understand football. They see opportunities. When we miss opportunities, we don't beat them up but we hold them accountable. As coaches we want to put our guys in good position scheme-wise. That's our job, to teach them things that will make us successful. I like the fact that our staff, we feel like we can do better, and that the players think they could have executed better. When you are hearing those kind of things, you've got a chance, and we are executing a lot better."
passing execution in practice must have been excellent since they only spent 1/3 of the time on it
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Posted on 4/2/16 at 3:29 pm to D500MAG
Did you read the whole QA? He specifically says there were things they wanted to do, but if the players can't execute in practice they aren't going to go run those plays in a game and just hope it works.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 3:36 pm to emanresu
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Going into his 3rd season (senior season) here, Mett already had 2 seasons as a starter, (one here his junior year, and one at a community college)
By your logic, then, Mett regressed in his second year as a starter, since his CC numbers were better.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 3:39 pm to beauchristopher
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Harris is on his 3rd season and should definitely improve like Mett did in his 3rd season.
You're forgetting a big part of Mett's improvement as a senior was going from Studrawa's awful offense as a junior to Cam as OC.
Harris has already been under Cam for two full years. Of course players can improve with experience, but they all don't make huge leaps just because they're older. While I do think Harris can improve, I'm afraid his improvement will be marginal.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 3:51 pm to atltiger6487
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While I do think Harris can improve, I'm afraid his improvement will be marginal.
Even if it is marginal, ~60%, 2,300 yds, ~15 tds and under 10 int is more than good enough to win.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 4:08 pm to Guava Jelly
Bill Walsh once said the single most important attribute necessary to play QB at a high level is accuracy. The game thus far is still way too fast for BH and it causes him to miss throws. That can be possibly be fixed with reps but it may not. JJ never got over his struggles with accuracy and BH may not either. Only time will tell
Posted on 4/2/16 at 4:37 pm to OceanMan
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Ummm, Harris has arguably the best player to ever come through LSU, along with 2 5* WR's from NOLA. Let's revisit this argument in 5-10 years.
So you are saying
Chi & TJ > OBJ & Juice
Posted on 4/2/16 at 4:40 pm to DIGGY
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just can't be executed by players against better teams...
I cant even
Posted on 4/2/16 at 4:44 pm to Guava Jelly
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I really don't know why people don't believe Harris will be better. Even if our scheme stayed the same passing would improve based solely on his experience.
Now this is the one thing I can agree with. Compare Russell in 2005 to 2006, Lee/JJ in 2010 to 2011, and Mett in 2012 to 2013. The only time a returning QB that started the previous year did suck was JJ from 2009 to 2010. That was an anomaly (the rare sophomore slump).
If nothing else, Harris will improve, possibly drastically, based on a year of starting experience.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 5:08 pm to beauchristopher
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That is correct. Harris first year starting as a sophomore stats are very similar of Mettenberger first year starting and he was a Junior..
Yep. Mett played the full 13 games and the only thing notably better was his completion %. He had a horrendous 2010 JJ-esque 3 game stretch vs UF, USCe and TAMU where he completed 43% of his passing for 403 yards 1 TD and 2 ints. Funny thing is, we went 2-1 during that stretch vs 3 teams that finished in the AP top 10.
If you only used Jennings's stats vs SHSU (7/13 53.8% 188 yards 3 TDs) to project Harris vs McNeese St, he finishes the season with 2346 pass yards (8.11 ypa) 16 TDs 6 ints, 269 rush yards (3.58 ypc) 4 TDs. Now you look at a guy who put up 2615 total yards and 20 total TDs in his first year and it just looks much better.
Of course he'd have the horrible games to end the season on his resume (all against the top secondaries), but it's easier to swallow when you realize he had a sports hernia and we didn't have Dural vs TAMU.
So I'm putting my trust in an improved Harris and WR group (who was inconsistent as well), not in Cam and Miles.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 5:24 pm to LSU_Saints_Hornets
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My jaw literally hit the floor when I read this.
Yeah, I read it a lil while ago and the first thing I could say was, unbelievable. Posted on 4/2/16 at 5:32 pm to BilJ
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Guess we'll see a-hole
Learn to use commas. "Guess we'll see a-hole" and "Guess we'll see, a-hole" mean two entirely different things.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 5:34 pm to supatigah
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The game thus far is still way too fast for BH and it causes him to miss throws. That can be possibly be fixed with reps but it may not
It is fixed with reps almost all the time. Which is why the JJ comparison is all the more absurd.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 5:55 pm to patnuh
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Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.-Josey Wales
I reckon there's a lot of advice in that there movie that football folks could pay some heed to (spit).
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 6:25 pm to Spankum
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I really don't know why people don't believe Harris will be better. Even if our scheme stayed the same passing would improve based solely on his experience.
agreed...same process and timeline that we saw with mettenberger, if I remember right...
The difference is that in his first year starting, Mett improved as the season went on. Had his best game by far in the loss to Bama.
Harris regressed noticably as his first season starting went on.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 6:35 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Exactly! Have heard enough talk. Prove it.
Posted on 4/2/16 at 6:56 pm to DIGGY
I don't give two flips what Les and cam say. They better show us improvement this november!
Posted on 4/2/16 at 7:49 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Carpetbagger:
Your young friend could use some help.
[holds up a bottle of patent medicine]
This is it... one dollar a bottle. It works wonders on wounds.
Josey Wales:
Works wonders on just about everything, eh?
Carpetbagger:
It can do most anything.
Josey Wales:
[spits tobacco juice on the carpetbagger's coat]
How is it with stains?
Your young friend could use some help.
[holds up a bottle of patent medicine]
This is it... one dollar a bottle. It works wonders on wounds.
Josey Wales:
Works wonders on just about everything, eh?
Carpetbagger:
It can do most anything.
Josey Wales:
[spits tobacco juice on the carpetbagger's coat]
How is it with stains?
Posted on 4/2/16 at 8:36 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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Not sure if you have seen The Outlaw Jose Wales,
The only image I have of The Outlaw Josey Wales as it applies to LSU Football is Kirby remarking to Nick... "Whooped em again Josey!" and Nick saying "I reckon so..."
Posted on 4/2/16 at 10:30 pm to BilJ
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Again, this is my opinion but Etling seems to be a better fit to do the things Cam and Les want from their QB in this system
From what I've heard he doesn't have the arm for the deep ball, which is an integral part of our offense. The deep ball brings the safeties out of the box which helps the run and any short passes we might hypothetically be taking.
Competition is obviously healthy and necessary especially at QB, but people undervalue Harris's deep ball. If I had to choose between a guy who can run, hit a deep ball, and has seen an SEC schedule before vs. a guy who can hit the short/int routes in practice but has never had even a snap at SEC speed, I gotta go with Harris but I'm also glad Etling is there as well.
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